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Eric Badger commented on YARN-5366:
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Hey [[email protected]], thanks for the response. I have a few followup 
questions. 

{quote}
Without detached mode, stdin gets attached to the process in the container. 
This results in container-executor waiting for the docker run command to 
complete before performing the remaining tasks, like getting the pid, setting 
up the cgroup tasks file. Since the container is already finished when c-e 
resumes, it's not possible to get the PID. Without the PID file, 
ContainersMonitor, container signaling, etc fails. This would require 
non-trivial changes to container-executor, beyond swapping the flags if we take 
the default behavior.
{quote}
Can't we run the docker run command in the background? Wouldn't that fix this 
issue and allow us to continue along in the container-executor as planned?

{quote}
It would be nice to have the ability to keep a container around for debugging 
and clean it up after the debug delay has passed. This is what YARN-5366 really 
started out to do.
{quote}
Yea I agree that this would be really useful. This is actually one of the 
reasons that I'm looking into this detached mode issue.

{quote}
The --rm doesn't always work. I've seen containers get stuck in a "dead" state 
due to mount namespace leaks and --rm left it abandoned. Explicitly managing 
the lifecycle still has these challenges, but we can control removal retries if 
we encounter an issue.
{quote}
Can you point to some examples of --rm not working? Are there issues that have 
been reported to the Docker community that we can follow? Has this been fixed 
in a newer release of Docker? And it makes sense that we could retry removals 
in the container executor if we control it explicitly, but now we're just 
changing the surface area of a possible bug from the docker daemon to the 
container executor. If the container-executor fails for whatever reason, then 
the container will stick around, just as it would if the docker daemon fails to 
remove it. I would generally think that the docker daemon would be better at 
removing containers since this is a docker issue, not a hadoop issue. 

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It looks like for GPU support, named volumes were added. I haven't spent the 
time to understand exactly how it is used, but --rm will remove volumes in some 
cases, so we'd need to better understand the use to avoid inadvertently 
deleting data.
{quote}
Hmm. This is a more interesting issue. I don't know how named volumes and --rm 
work together. Hopefully there's a way that they can work together.

Overall, if we can get it to work, I think using the --rm option simplifies a 
lot of things for us and reduces the possibility for bugs to be introduced in 
the container-executor. 

> Improve handling of the Docker container life cycle
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: YARN-5366
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-5366
>             Project: Hadoop YARN
>          Issue Type: Sub-task
>          Components: yarn
>            Reporter: Shane Kumpf
>            Assignee: Shane Kumpf
>              Labels: oct16-medium
>         Attachments: YARN-5366.001.patch, YARN-5366.002.patch, 
> YARN-5366.003.patch, YARN-5366.004.patch, YARN-5366.005.patch, 
> YARN-5366.006.patch
>
>
> There are several paths that need to be improved with regard to the Docker 
> container lifecycle when running Docker containers on YARN.
> 1) Provide the ability to keep a container on the NodeManager for a set 
> period of time for debugging purposes.
> 2) Support sending signals to the process in the container to allow for 
> triggering stack traces, heap dumps, etc.
> 3) Support for Docker's live restore, which means moving away from the use of 
> {{docker wait}}. (YARN-5818)
> 4) Improve the resiliency of liveliness checks (kill -0) by adding retries.
> 5) Improve the resiliency of container removal by adding retries.
> 6) Only attempt to stop, kill, and remove containers if the current container 
> state allows for it.
> 7) Better handling of short lived containers when the container is stopped 
> before the PID can be retrieved. (YARN-6305)



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