On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:54:37 +0100
Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/26/2014 09:27 AM, Josef Reidinger wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:48:41 +0100
> > Ancor Gonzalez Sosa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>
> >>   c) Server is running and “start when booting” is not marked
> >>      Ask the user if they would like to stop the server now.
> >>      If they decide to keep it running, reload the server.
> > 
> > Why? If server running then simply reload it. Or do you think it is
> > common use case to run old server and wait with reload to next boot?
> 
> That's exactly the point which started the whole usability discussion.
> Currently when you configure the server as disabled ("manually" radio
> button) and you click "ok", the running server is stopped. We got a
> bug report about it and I agree is unexpected to me. But turns out
> that is implemented in that way to meet expectations from some users.
> 
> So the point in (c) is not whether to keep server running with the old
> configuration (as you can see in (b) that's never an option). The
> point is whether disabling should mean stopping the currently running
> service.
> 

I am probably not common user. If I uncheck "start server during boot",
then I really do not except to stop already running service.

> >
> > [...]
> >
> > As you may guess from my comments I do not prefer to ask user to
> > something unless it is really critical like that computer will
> > explode or if beer getting warm.
> 
> I'd normally agree. But the problem with this approach is that several
> fields and field combinations has proved to be understood in different
> ways by different users. Ken's solution was to add extra checks. I
> think it makes sense even if I usually dislike pop-ups.

Still I think we maybe just need to separate action buttons ( like
start/stop service ) from configuration options ( like start during
boot ). This should help with confusion without pop-ups.

Just my 2c.
Josef

> 
> Cheers.
> 

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