Josef Reidinger composed on 2018-09-26 10:33 (UTC+0200):

> Tue, 25 Sep 2018 16:31:41 -0400 Felix Miata composed:

>> Time and time again, NVidia gfx and Optimus users are unable to install
>> without appending nomodeset to the installer's cmdline. cf.
>> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=822769 resolved feature No
>> mention is made in that bug if a feature request was ever filed. The bug 
>> request was to make appending nomodeset easier for users.

>> This trouble with installation is routinely followed by a new support
>> request, to resolve problems either with low resolution video modes, or
>> black screens, or both. e.g. 
>> https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/533157-How-change-screen-resolution

>>  More often than not, resolving this failure means the helpers must explain
>> that nomodeset needs to be removed from Grub configuration, and how to go
>> about it, which means temporarily at the Grub screen, and ultimately via
>> /etc/default/grub and grub2-mkconfig.

>> IMO it would be much a better user and support experience, and ultimately
>> better for openSUSE's reputation, that when the Yast installer finds
>> nomodeset has been used to install that it *not* be preserved in
>> /etc/default/grub.

>> Agree? If yes, file this request where, B.O.O., or F.O.O?

>> If not agree, why not?

>> OT but related: is anything being done or planned to make it less likely
>> that nomodeset is necessary for a successful installation for Optimus and
>> NVidia users?

> Hi Felix, this should already work. If user select for installation
> nomodeset, then bootloader proposal should use it. Do you have logs from
> installation where it does not work? I can check it why it does not work.

You seem to misunderstand my proposition. When nomodeset is appended to
installation cmdline because of having previously attempted installation without
nomodeset and having any sort of consequent video failure with the original
installation, the subsequent installation attempt /with/ nomodeset appended 
should

        NOT

include nomodeset in the bootloader proposal, which is as you say what it
currently does:

http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/Leap/y2l-ab250s150test-wd320.tgz

Experts may know to edit the proposal. Others (most users) don't. As a
consequence of nomodeset included in the installed bootloader configuration,
their video is typically limited to either a useless black screen, and/or
1024x768 or 800x600, in any case, not the display's preferred mode that with
FOSS drivers virtually always requires KMS to acquire, and for GDM or SDDM to 
run.
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