On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:05:04 +0200
Bernd Ritter <com...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Lukas,
> 
> thanks for you reply! To be honest my last attempt on the documentation
> has been a few years ago, so maybe my lookout on this is quite dated.
> 
> At work I proposed to use a linux based "embedded" system as a
> replacement for our former rtos realtime embedded system. These boxes
> are used to communicate with large truck scales.
> 
> Naturally I chose opensuse as operating system of choice. And because we
> (mostly scale technicians not IT personnel) will install hundreds of
> these boxes over a very long timespan, I remembered AutoYaST and wanted
> it to give it a try (again).
> 
> So our current planning includes:
> 
> * initial base setup of storage (one disk and some flash drives), com
> port settings, usb settings, users, services and directory structures
> with AutoYaST.

Hi Bernd,
thanks for sharing your use case. I think part can be done, part you need to do 
yourself using script option in autoyast like usb and com settings.

> 
> * After that we want to do customer specific customizations with Ansible
> (as it does not require a server opposed to salt).

salt can also run without server - 
https://docs.saltstack.com/en/latest/topics/tutorials/quickstart.html it is 
called salt masterless

> 
> I will dig deeper into the documentation and get back to you if there is
> something unclear to me. Would be happy to help improve documentation there.

That would be great. Especially regarding storage part, which is quite new and 
also non-trivial due to various storage technologies.

Thanks
Josef

> 
> Cheers and a nice weekend,
> Bernd
> 
> On 17.04.20 13:44, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
> > On 4/17/20 10:05 AM, Bernd Ritter wrote:  
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> thanks something I can second. I've had some runs to get to use AutoYaST
> >> but if I remember correctly I was overwhelmed but the amount of XML that
> >> is necessary to make a plain install.  
> > 
> > Yes, you have to write quite deep-structured XML file in order to define
> > anything. It's basically because of two things
> > 
> > 1. YaST in general uses a very special XML (Josef currently works on a
> >    project to simplify that if possible)
> > 
> > 2. YaST has too many options to use. Of course, you can usually omit
> >    almost everything and use the defaults
> > 
> > BTW, the really minimal AutoYaST profile contains just the root
> > user/password. This is the only thing we can't guess (use the defaults).
> >   
> >> It would be perfect to have a default installation that represents about
> >> the experience when installation through the graphical installer.  
> > 
> > It must be already two years since I was trying to somehow push for a
> > simple plain file describing the expected setup. Markdown, YAML, JSON
> > ... anything like that could be used. There wasn't a need for that so far.
> > 
> > What would be your use case? PLS share some info :)
> >   
> >> Yet the GUI has always been faster than to get into AutoYaST and make a
> >> working config file.  
> > 
> > Looks like we've failed to educate our users, there are really simple
> > ways how to make it work with some tools we provide with AutoYaST.
> > 
> > Thx
> > Lukas
> >   

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