Amandla!!!!!! Cdes u see this thing of education seems to be a problem with many cdes or is it convinient to use now against Cdes. If we speak reality , as Africans we won't be proud of the Education system from the West which made some of us to hold titles such as Doctorates,Masters etc because this educational system had or has its own goal to reach which in this our Africa this system wanted to make sure that Black or I say African Society should be divided and that most peoples who goes through the educational system from west inherit a Western Culture as well. Before I go any further let's look into Science. Our grandparents could tell us a lot about science that most people spend years in varsities studying and yet they come-out still 'hout-kops" .for instance Africans understand ASTRONOMY well and they can tell you anything about the Stars, THEIR NAMES AND ROLES(Bo-Mphatlalatsane which naledi ya meso). Our grandparents could predict Weather more than Ukumhlophee and many others who learned and have those Masters dgerees and their proffessors. Our Grands could tell what time it is without looking into a watch things like "ka merithi" which 3oclock , "letshela kgomo mokokotlo" which 12oclock etc. I was once previlliged to work with one old man when exploring the availability of Platinum as mineral at one land who could just tell if the land has got the mineral by telling us what characterstics are there to prove the availability that Mineral in a land. So, can anyone explain the so call "BEING EDUCATED' or what's the difference between experience and knowledge? I think my parents who were not lucky to benefit from apartheid so they can go to some ST Mbeki Boarding Schools and become the so called educated and they become nurses and teachers or apartheid police forces and so they could have helped me go to some boarding school as well learn English and proceed to WITS OR RAU and use my english to rise to the helm of SASCO and be able to insult in English the likes of Malema for not having had previlleges and faced up with some struggles ko Masakaneng are EXPERIENCED and am only Knowledgeable with the so called doctorates i might be having. It can't be that if we loose in a conference then we reduce conference to the NATIONAL ELECTIONS were after the oppsition looses in maintains a permanent hatred with the winner. Can anyone recall MAFIKENG where the problems started? MBEKI group had permanent gripe with likes of SEXWALE,RAMAPHOSA,PHOSA etc and he went to try and purge them for their attempt to contest in that conference. Love your Mbeki but never try to undermine the ANC under whoever is A leader as long those cadres were put together by the masses of the ANC. So if anyone wants to undermine the President of the ANCYL Julius Malema they must go the branches of the ANCYL and lobby so they could become presidents come the next conference of the YL. You can't say wena you don't like Malema therefore you want to start your own YL under Lekota party. It means that very same party mustn't have confrences that are elective because if that is the case then that organization will give birth to more splinter groups because if u loose a position in an organization you'll then start ur own party. now at the same breath can anyone whether a media house provide me with the entire speech that contains 'kill for Zuma' i mean the entire speech not only "kill for Zuma". why the media only quote this Kill for Zuma can they provide the entire speech that day. Does anyone have that speech?
--- On Fri, 24/10/08, Thabang Ngcozela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Thabang Ngcozela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 2:43 PM #yiv287825236 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv287825236 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} Cde Modi you have hit the nail in right in the head. Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:05:21 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema's Matric Results CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi comrades I want to state it from the very onset that I am not a Julius Malema's fan. I really disagree with a number of statements that have been made by Malema in the media. I think his approach to politics is not advancing the interest of the South African youth but that is debate for another day. On the other hand, I do think though that those who are socialists and activists should not fall into the trap of the petty bourgeois elements, the analysts of the bourgeois order and the mass media. During our dark of the struggle, formal education and qualifications were always taken with a pinch of salt. We knew that in general formal education was there to serve the interest of the apartheid capitalist system. Our approach was to go to the school and use them as a site of struggle. Of course, we studied and got formal qualification but individual qualifications and certificates were not glorified. If you read a popular pamphlet issues by students of 1976 called, "To town, To Ellof", you will notice that for them the certificate was the struggle. We had a lot of comrades who did not have all these formal qualifications but they performed better politically. In many cases, these comrades were sharper than those who had university qualification. The struggle was their school. In fact, their education was what we call popular education which was based on collective learning and sharing of experiences. These were grassroots intellectuals or what Gramsci would call organic intellectuals. A number of these comrades were shop stewards, student leaders and so on. In fact, these comrades were able to debate with professors and academics. These comrades ran their own study circles and read the Learning Nation of the then New Nation. The mass movement and the struggle gave these comrades education. . Today, we are faced with a situation where certain petty bourgeois elements want to judge us on the basis of our grammar, pronunciation, certificates and even matric results. In other words, it is only those who have masters degree who are entitled to public opinions. We must never forget that the apartheid system never provided the black working class children with proper education. Even today, it is the kids of the middle class and the ruling class who are able to excel in formal education because they have all the material support from their parents. Over the past few days, I witnessed a very painful and a touching incident in Freedom Park, the South of Johannesburg. I had gone for a meeting there. There was a working class kid at the meeting. He is probably three years old but he could not hold the pen properly. Now if you were to compare that with middle class and upper class kids, what do you get? The kids from better family backgrounds at that age are starting to read and write. They even speak English fluently. They are exposed to computers. Now we can see right from the beginning that this working class kid is unlikely to compete with the kids of the middle classes. I have worked with a lot of good comrades who do not have matric results. Do I then undermine these comrades just because they never matriculated? I think that would be reactionary and backward on my part. I have to confess that these comrades sometimes perform political tasks much better than the certificate-wielding petty bourgeois elements. Yours in the struggle for the total emancipation of the working class Mondli Hlatshwayo 0843773003 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
