To reiterate what a Thabang Ngcozela said: becareful of capitalist media! On 11/3/08, Metuse Mbasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comrades find the letter by Justice Malala I think it is very interesting > to note that some from the Media could come out to defend our leadership and > reveal some of the things we did not know > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *LUCKY MASUKU > *Sent:* 03 November 2008 10:16 AM > *To:* [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: An Open response to the letter by Thabo > Mbeki > > > > Cdes I think i fully agree with the Kaizer, there are element of > discrediting the movement by the former President. I still maintain that > there was no need for the loyal cadre of the ANC who have served the > organisation for more than 52yrs to write that thing. i honestly do not > think that it was in the interest of the organisation. > > > > In my view cadres this letter was merely manufactured to actually discredit > comrade JZ and the movement in general while positioning this > counter-revolutionary movement. The ANC leaders have also interacted with > those leaders that are mentioned there, its not him alone who inteacted with > this cadres. > > > > TM is on record as saying that he is available to be deployed by the ANC > and now, he sing a different tune, now our movement must consult him before > deploying him, it is indeed strange today that we must request him to > advance the trasformational agenda of the ANC. > > > > I still personal hold TM is high regard because of the role that he played > in our struggle and our transformation of our country but i honestly do not > think at this stage he is honestly advancing the unity of our organisation. > According to my knowledge his still sits in the highest decision making body > of the ANC and therefore he has all the opportunity to raise this issue > rather than writing a letter which also linked to the media and the other > party. > > > > i believe that the sooner some of this spook leave, the better. the ANC > LIVES AND LEADS > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Kaizer Mohau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2008 1:14:28 PM > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: An Open response to the letter by Thabo > Mbeki > > > AN OPEN RESPONSE TO THE LETTER FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE > COUNTRY AND THE ANC, Thabo Mbeki. > > > By: Kaizer Mohau > > > It has come not as a shock to us that a letter written to the > President of the African National Congress (ANC) by the former > President of both the ANC and the Republic, Thabo Mbeki made it to the > media and the public in a manner that is completely unsatisfactory to > some of us. > > According to the author the letter was addressed to the President of > the organisation thus the ANC correctly refused to publicise it. The > ANC certainly took this decision on the basis that it was not meant or > it was led to believe that its contents were not meant for public > consumption – nevertheless, the letter is today published in an > unedited version to some newspapers. > > The question that I think needs to be posed is how did this letter > reach news desks of some journalists? > > > Firstly, the media reported immediately after Cde Gwede Mantashe > mentioned the letter when was addressing a meeting in Pretoria. > According to the media, Cde Gwede misled the public in terms of this > letter by selectively quoting some passages of the letter. > > Terror Lekota, in an obviously opportunistic manner addressed the > media in which he equally mentioned the issue of the misleading of the > public by the ANC – subsequent to that, we were informed that Thabo > Mbeki the author of the letter forwarded the same letter to Terror > Lekota, who is no longer a leader of the ANC – in fact he has become > the enemy of the ANC since the recalling of the Author of the letter. > > Now since then it has become very clear that Lekota is no longer > interested in the ANC but its demise and he is out rightly working > towards this objective. > > The letter itself contains very poisonous statements aimed in my own > view to deepen the current political and organisational instability > the likes of Lekota want to cause within the ANC. > > For me the letter is completely not helping in ensuring the unity and > cohesion of the movement despite the pretentious mentioning of this > unity and cohesion by the author. > > The author in this letter sends a goodbye message masquerading as > concern over the state of the ANC currently. In a subtle manner the > author raises the very issues that Lekota and his best men and women > have been making noise about. > > Thabo Mbeki, starts by raising as a concern the statements made by the > President of the African National Congress Youth League (ANCYL) Cde > Julius Malema and the ANC President Jacob Zuma to the fact that he is > expected to campaign and do election work for the ANC as a cadre of > this organisation. > > During his media address after he was recalled as a President of the > Republic, Thabo Mbeki informed the nation that he remains a loyal and > committed cadre of the ANC - perhaps it is on this basis that both the > President of the ANC and of the Youth had in mind when indicating that > Thabo Mbeki will be expected as a cadre of the organisation like all > other cadres to participate in the ANC election work. > > To argue that he should have been consulted before a public > pronouncement is made – clearly indicates how other Comrades think > that they are better than others. > > Leaders of the ANC did not speak only about Thabo Mbeki – in fact the > President of the ANC began by saying that all cadres should avail > themselves for election work, the journalist asked specifically about > Thabo Mbeki, a question the President of the ANC Cde Jacob Zuma > answered that as a cadre of the ANC Thabo Mbeki is to do election work > for his organisation. > > It will not be right if individual members of the ANC will expect that > they should be sent personal request to do organisational work. > > Whether the timing of this public announcement came during Lakota's > crusade against the ANC is immaterial, Lekota attacks the ANC and ANC > cadres must not only distance themselves from Lekota but equally they > should repudiate him for his misconduct. > > The "personality cult" phenomenon > > Thabo Mbeki in a manner typical of an angry individual dictator – > makes the point that some Comrades in the movement attaches this > phenomenon to him – that he has developed a scenario where in which he > is worshiped as an individual thus the mentioning of the personality > cult question. > > But Thabo Mbeki sides steppes the fact that some ministers and deputy > ministers resigned from government siding his recalling as a reason > for their resignation. Meaning that without the personality of Thabo > Mbeki – the ANC can go to the nearest dustbin of history. > > Surely, if sincere enough Thabo Mbeki must start by rejecting these > political criminals – and their factional tendencies. Because his > failure to distance himself from them – reality is bound to let us > conclude that indeed this phenomenon of personality cult is what has > characterised the ANC leadership under his Presidency. > > Thabo Mbeki must not try to fool us – because we know that people who > did not agree with him including our Alliance partners were always > insulted publicly others removed from their positions of > responsibility in government – is this not to surround yourself with > people who agrees with you always and uncritically? – If the answer is > yes, then what do you call this? Because this Cde Thabo is the > phenomenon of "personality cult". > > > Some of us find it very interesting your ability to quote leaders and > mention them by names – however, this is very scary. > > Indeed the leaders you mention in your letter would not have approved > the presence of foreign tendencies your presidency has brought inside > our movement. > > Perhaps, you only lie about them because they are no more and > therefore they will not answer for themselves and make their own > determination on the matter– which I think would have not been > different from the determination we have made – that you are a menace > or rather your leadership is a menace to the consolidation and > advancement of the National Democratic Revolution. > > The principled decision taken by the ANC as far as you are concern > would have received large support from those leaders – I wonder why is > it that you became so selective in mentioning Comrades – your > deliberate deleting of Chris Hani's name in your list of cadres you > worked with raises serious concern, especially considering that Cde > Chris disagreed with you on a number of issues – including the fact > that your view of the ANC has always been of a Europeanised African > Dictator in making. > > > The Letter > > One is curious to know why did you sent the letter addressed to the > President of the African National Congress to Terror Lekota, conscious > of the fact that Lekota and his Co. are about to establish a political > Party opposed to the ANC which you claim to be loyal and committed to? > > There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever, that indeed you leaked the > letter to Lekota because you thought it as a correct strategy to > undermine the ANC while profiling the convention of political > criminals at the same time. > > It was correct for the ANC to divulge aspects of the letter which are > aimed at making sure that you are not exposed too much and your > commitment and loyalty to the ANC which you served for so many decades > is intact and not compromised. > > To send the letter to Lekota is very suspicious – because one would > love to know as to on what capacity Lekota deserved to receive the > copy of that letter. > - Why if not satisfied with how the letter is handled, didn't you > contact the ANC and raise this matter with the leadership > - Why do you want to refuse to participate in the ANC Election work > - Why do you compare the ANC to a non existent Party > - How come you make the inference and insinuation that the ANC is a > faction? > > > For history will never be kind to the dishonest and counter > Revolutionaries – FAREWELL THABO MBEKI! > > > > > > NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice > which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm > If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the > disclaimer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. > > > >
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