I fully agree with you Cde Steve , Cde Botipe's response is uncalled for , we need to share our views and knowledge about the Shikota's , if I were you cde I would reserve my response about Cde Kaizer. Kaizer I like it when you stress more about Elections , elections will be the only weapon to fight this class of 1996. Cde's we need nothing but votes , may be our next discusion should be focus of getting people to register to vote for better results on elections '' Can somebody tell me how many people you know , that are negative about politics , just because they are confused and don't want to acknowledge the deliverables of our movement , lets focus on getting those people to join the ANC and sensetise them , until they start singing the song even if it means they sing it more than us. '' then we can introduce them to the political school of Cde JZ.
Each Cde needs to mobelize 5 non political minded individuels and mentor them through , we will see the magic. Lets forget about KOPA. they are in fact not there , The elders will deal with each other '' they will deal with them cause bayabazi kudala , The ANC have a lot of things which is ammunition enough to take them to the ground. No emotions comrades please. MY ANC MY VISION MY FUTURE Sphaka - Dawnpark ________________________________ From: Steve Mamphekgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:56:43 PM Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Let us not lose sight of the truth Cde Botipe, I dont think that is the kind of spirit with which the cadres in this Forum would want to engage with one another on various issues. In as much as your point on Cde Kaizer's seemingly preoccupation with COPE may be valid to a certain extend, it does not warrant the insults contained in your response. Unless some of you comrades feel unease with the vicious criticisms levelled against the Shikotas in this Forum, then such angry responses will be understandable in that context. However I think Cde Kaizer has in the past provided some insightful analysis of issues, including the unbecoming tendencies by the snakes within our ranks (Shikotas). There is nothing new in what Nikiwe and her North West cronies have done by defecting to the Shikotas, which was not unexpected anyway. We should not display signs of shock or surprise on what they did, for we have always known that they snakes that continued to poison our movement from within, and were just waiting for their turn of media attention to publicly defect to the Shikotas. Their actions therefore do not warrant any indepth analysis, for such will draw our attention to non-issues. Unless otherwise there are unexpected defections that will shake all of us, then such a lament can be somehow justifiable. Cde Kaizer's input on this matter does not differ fundamentally with the input he provided previously, "open letter to the Shikotas". By trying to apply our minds on these long overdue defections, we will end up recycling analysis and inputs. Personally I celebrated Nikiwe's media announcement, since she has been distabilizing the ANC from within. Let us not mourn her departure, and those that will still follow soon, for they are simply giving us space to build a united, focused, pro-poor and working class-bised ANC. I can't wait for the official defection of Thabo Mbeki, Jabu Moleketi, etc, for they continue to sent conflicting and confusing messages on our behalf, whilst we all know exactly where they belong, with the Shikotas.And when they do, let us not crack our heads trying to analyse their motives and reasonings, but we should rather say "good riddance" at long last On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:26 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I am getting bored reading Cde. Mohau's rantings every week in the forum, and I wonder how many comrades actualle read them. He seem to be suffering from eternal, perpetual COPE obssession accomapanied by name calling. It is actrually puerile, if comarades are to be honest and tell it as it is. The body of your piece does not even correspond with the topic given to us, and I hope thi is not the kind of discussion your branch is subjected to. They are not matured at all. > LET US NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE TRUTH > > By: Kaizer Mohau > > Recent developments within our movement especially in the North West > province have undoubtedly placed a huge pressure on us as cadres of > the ANC to be more vigilant in terms of defending the movement from > those who intends wounding it before the 2009 elections. > > It is clear now that indeed there are comrades who are not willing to > accept the historical reality that the 1996 class project was > strategically defeated in Polokwane. > > Listening to the "provincial Spokesperson" of this sect of counter > revolutionary dissidents, Mrs. Nikiwe Mangqo, one wondered as to > whether does Nikiwe believes her blatant lies about the ANC and its > leadership? > > Because if she believes what she said, then indeed as members of the > ANC we have reasons to be worried and very worried. > > Furthermore I am very worried as to the manner in which this faction > of pseudo democrats want to use the media in the province to address > the issues they are supposed to be raising within the structures of > the movement. Most of these people are leading cadres in the province > and regions of the ANC, it is therefore imperative to begin asking the > question as to whether did they understand what it means to be a > member of the ANC before Polokwane, or rather since Polokwane has the > ANC changed? > > The answer to this question is very important if all of us are serious > about ensuring that we do not lose the coming elections. > > Very interestingly, on the eve of the Nikiwe and Company resignations, > one member of the Provincial Executive Committee and a leading cadre > in the Dr. KK Region gave an "exclusive" interview to one local > newspaper in which the very reasons given by Nikiwe as reasons for > their resignations were articulated more profoundly. > > The Comrade indicated in the same interview that one of his problems > with the National leadership of the ANC is the failure on the part of > the leadership to ensure discipline amongst its cadres. Cde Julius > Malema the democratically elected President of the African National > Congress Youth League is singled out as a reflection of this > ill-discipline tendency the Comrade claims is unprecedented in the > ANC. > > When asked as to whether is he intending to leave the ANC for the > so-called COPE – the Comrade said he has not yet made his mind thus he > is currently engaging both the Provincial and National leaderships of > the ANC in this regard. > > Certainly it cannot be correct that a leading cadre can doubt their > loyalty and commitment to the organisation they are leading. It is so > wrong to give such an ambiguous answer to this simple question, this > is mainly because those reading the newspaper will correctly assume > that it is just a matter of time before the comrade decides to leave. > Besides why should this comrade think that he or she can hold the ANC > to ransom? Cadres must know that all of us comes and go in the ANC but > the ANC will remain – therefore to portray yourself as being better > than others is tantamount to trying to lead the ANC as if it is your > private company. > > Now Nikiwe during her interview argues that the manner in which the > NEC has been treating the Provincial Executive Committee of the ANC in > the North West has been very problematic – she makes reference to two > critical points (1) That the NEC in general and the Secretary General > in particular have for the past four moths been saying the PEC is > fraudulent and (2) she makes the point that the Secretary General at > some point labelled them the (PEC) as a faction. > > Indeed Nikiwe, you behaved factionally that is why you left the ANC > because it does not want or need factionalists within its ranks. > > It must be made clear that we are aware that some of these people > participated in a meeting were the issue of the split from the > movement was discussed long before Polokwane conference. > > So we should never be fooled by the reasons which are being advanced > now – because they are indeed not the real reasons. The Provincial > Chairperson Comrade Nono Maloi is correct to argue that, people must > not lie, if they want to leave the ANC they should tell the truth – > lest they be addicted to lies. > > For many of us in this province, reasons are simply that their choice > of leadership was not preferred by the majority of delegates in > Polokwane and the fact that the ANC resolved in a constitutional > meeting of the NEC to recall Thabo Mbeki – PERIOD! > > Nikiwe and her co. in the Province which is determined to wound the > ANC before the elections – are undoubtedly part of what the SACP has > characterised as the parasitic 1996 class project. Theirs is to ensure > that the ANC is liquidated and on its ashes the class project regains > power to reverse the Polokwane conference resolutions. > > The other important issue linked to the above is the threat of mass > exodus of the ANC cadres to "COPE" by the end of this month. > > We are equally aware that there are Executive Mayors, Councillors, > MEC's and regional leaders of the ANC who are contemplating to leave > the ANC – contrary and not contradicting the Chairperson of the ANC in > the Province, some of us wishes to call on those who want to leave to > do so before they cause more damage if not more anger on our part. > > We view the conduct of these political enemies of the ANC as being > very provocative, in some Sub regional structures of the ANC for > example the Tlokwe Sub region, the tendency to disrespect and defy the > ANC leadership seems to be what defines a committed cadre of the ANC. > > We hope those who want to leave will do so urgently, so that they > assist the ANC to focus on its main important challenge today that is > of ensuring that our people are not robbed of their own leader as > motive forces of our revolution. > > We should make sure that our eyes are at all times on the ball and > never defocused because this is what the Lekota group want us to do, > be defocused. > > We need as members of the ANC whilst defending the ANC from these > charlatans and opportunists to intensify our election work even if it > means to defy those who do not want the ANC to win the elections. > > Those comrades who are isolated by their Sub regional leadership on > the basis of their robust political engagement should consider > utilising that robustness in doing election work with or without the > permission of the Lekota puppets who masquerade as leaders in our > movement. > > > Finally it is important to remind Nikiwe and those political imbeciles > who surrounded her during the interview that as the Setswana saying > goes "Se nganang senthola morwalo" – Farewell Counter revolutionaries > – the ANC will never be in crisis because you left – in fact the ANC > will now be clear and more united in terms of its programs and > campaigns. > > MY ANC > MY VISION > MY FUTURE > > By: Kaizer Mohau > > Writing in his personal capacity as a Branch member of the ANC in the > Tlokwe Sub Region. > > > > ------------------------------------------- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. 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