Thanks Cde. Buti as usuall, you were not intimidated and you did not mice your 
words in responding to the questions of the ever anti-Revolution Debra Patta. 
Nqaba could not even articulate into the question of whether Education should 
be a prerequisite to Lead or not. I could really not make any sense of what he 
said there. It's pretty obvious that the crew of Nqaba and them have not left 
the ANC because of deviation from any Policy direction or anything but in 
pursuit of their own personal agendas. That vote count made me think of the 
demand and the susequent victory of not counting votes only electronically but 
also manually as was the case in Polokwane. UFasimbaMbulelo Dikgacwi61 Adderley 
streetOudtshoorn6625Tel: (044) 279 2720Fax:(044) 279 2722/0865134933Cell: +27 
84 944 4781 

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:40:29 +0200From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[YCLSA Discussion] Re: 3RD DEGREE OUTCOMES!
Greetings,
 
Nqaba, was just presenting common sense and general expectations of what his 
company or organisation wishes to see South Africa one day. Whereas Cde Buti 
was being factual on the role of movement and what movement has achieved in the 
past 14 years and so on. 
 
Cde Buti, corectly put it when he made the point about Cde Zuma having to 
respect democracy and the internal democracy of the organisation. Many people 
would have left the ANC if they were in the situation Cde Zuma was into. Infact 
they did now (Nqaba, Lekota, etc). 
 
We can't have youth leaders that will narrow democracy to what they seek to see 
and when things happen in the manner they did not envisage, they argue to say 
democracy is not practiced. What is democracy? Lenin puts it to me to say that, 
"it is a good political shell to hide capitalism". That to me, finds the link 
of this democracy that Nqaba is refering to.
 
Lastly, we can't narrow the outcomes of the show on the number of "sms" sent to 
ETV. What if Lekota was seating sipping whiskey having nothing to do with his 
capital but just to goi "sms" to ETV. The sms is media itself and it is the 
same media mechanism used to discredit the ANC. 
 
Viva ANC, Viva SACP, Viva COSATU, Viva SASCO. 
 
 
 
 
 
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM, kagiso nkhoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





How was the debate on 3rd degree? If we just fairly reporting?
 
How was the balance of forces?
 
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