Cde Alex, I thank you my leader. The apology is duly accepted and I shall print the message and convey it to my branch and the District leadership.
You are indeed a considerate leader. I thank you. Comradely 2008/12/15 Alex M. Mashilo <[email protected]>: > Cde Thando, > > > > I'm very sorry that you had to wait without transport turning up. It has > come to my attention that there occurred 11th hour alterations from the bus > co. and the committee arranging the buses for the rally, and that only 50 > buses could be availed. That's where your genuine concern emerged. This > lesson will have to be taken serious in the project postmortem. > > > > Our apologies and thanks for your revolutionary spirit to want to come to > the rally, and with others take the revolution forward. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tshangela, Thando (GPTRW) [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 15 December 2008 02:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: MANAMELA YOU SAID A MOUTH FULL > > > > Nndwamato, > > I'm not a cohort. Call me Cde or use my name. I'm not angry but rather I'm > disappointed for waiting at the pick up point for no transport that was > promised by the leadership. Further, I never wanted to be a delegate. I > kindly declined nomination. > > I find your response vague and contradictory. Were you really at the > conference, did you listen attentively or selectively? Did you learn from > what you heard? While you say that the Secretary spoke of moving away from > the 'politics of Suspects'(sic) you nevertheless tell me to go and 'join > your brother...' You seem to advocate unity yet you are vengeful in > practice. > > And why do you say I should tell you 'as to why Mbeki does not have the > Courage to Denounce this Group...' I'm not his spokesperson neither his > spin-doctor. I think you should try as far as possible to concentrate on the > issues I raise and stop fishing for issues that I never raised. > > You are not clear as to how Tshwane managed to be proactive and get > transport and the 'bus complains...was not enter province issue,' is quite > vague for me to understand. Please elucidate. Maybe you can give us some > tips so that next time we become active in our district and get the buses > like you district did. > > I don't pretend to be anything other than what I am. And I won't claim to be > more of a communist than you are. > > Yours for a democratic dictatorship of the working class > > Thando Tshangela > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nndwamato Mutshidza > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:31 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] MANAMELA YOU SAID A MOUTH FULL > > > > Deat Thando, > > I wanted not to enter this debate and defend the YCL and its allies from > cohort like you. I mean you said with pride that you waited for the bus or > transport to take you to Alex as if it was a YCL making not to provide the > Busses as promised. Lets put this matter into context. The very same YCL had > a week long programme ending with the Rally. Maybe you are angry that you > were not a delegate to the Mid-Term Policy Conference and you want show you > divisive tendencies on this site. I should clearly clarify what the National > Secretary said when addressing those of us who were there. That we should > move away from politics of Suspects, wherein leaders are purged because they > differ with your views. he further re-iterate the continuing deafening > silence of Cde Mbeki on this new party and then posed a Question, which you > should tell us wena as to why Mbeki does not have the Courage to Denounce > this Group like he had the courage to write to the President of the ANC on > number of issues. > > You see, the National Secretary in his key Note Speech never make reference > to the "B" word and as such only call for all of us to defend the ANC-Lead > Alliance and the Gains we have scored so far and further re-evaluate those > areas that were identified as Key priority for the ANC in this Election > Manifesto. You do not behave like Mhlongo, who will just out of Erection or > Excitement go on air and accuse the General Secretary of SACP to be a > member of IFP and not provide proof. It does not take a Grade 3 child to > understand where are you standing and stop to claim to be one of us while > you speak passionately about this Group of Three and others. It is your > rhetoric that makes us sick. > > I am challenging you provide evidence of those alienation that you suffer so > seriously whenever Buti Speaks. Is it because you are in the receiving end > of the democratic principles that you said you will abide by when you > voluntarily join the YCL or any of the Alliance organisation? Please spare > us this nonsensical rhetoric of people who seeks attention where it is not > due. Evidenly you want us to believe in you while you do not want to expose > your true colours. We are saying stop behaving like a poilt Brat and go join > your brother in their Three-Some Company and then we could engage well as > oppositions. You have the nerve to tell us that our house is out of order > and we are not coping hence your Three-Some party is coping. > > Like I said if there was a contextual argument maybe we will have the > courage to defend your course but just like all of them, who claim that our > movement is on not in order and when you ask why, we are told because some > like you do not want to tow party discipline and want to loom larger than > the movement. Please bring to this platform genuine issue and we will really > entertain them. Because the same bus complains you are charging us of was > not enter province issue. If you Region, which you are telling us that you > waited until you gave up was not there to properly organise please blame the > fact that you do not want to be a volunteer and organise for your > constituency when the leadership was in Policy Conference. In my region > Tshwane, the organisation was outstanding and as such you could not want to > single out one iccident and want to elevate it to National Issue. > > Just like I said stop pretending to be who you not and come out clean. We > have encourage those with different Sexual Preferences to come out and they > did and they are supported by YCL, we will do the same when you declare your > identity. > > I remain, A communist in deed, action and spirit. > > YCL Youth Vote ANC > > > > -- > > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, e-mail > legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) standard. > > The full disclaimer details can be found at > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, > > and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for > their support. > > > > > > Disclaimer: > > > This message may contain confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. 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