Well finaly a cadre has written in line with the tradition of the congress movement.What is very intersting of late is that members of the ANC claim to be better than others on the basis that they supported or voted for the PRESIDENT Jacob Zuma.Members who voted for Thabo Mbeki are still members of the ANC and they must refuse to be bullied by the so called defenders of the revolution.What happened to critical engagements in foras like this one. What we have observed leaves much to be said about the capacity and cadres of our movement.Che said : a cadre is someone with administrative and ideological discipline, but then theory without practice is useless. This forum has been reduced to a fora where those who consider themselves winners in terms of Polokwane outcomes supress those who are considered loosers. For all we know the opposition is the one that is benefiting out of this petty conduct.when bulls fight in a Kraal it is only the Grass that sufferes. lastly the only platform where members contribution can be assessed honestly and objectively is at AGM,BGM,CONGRESSES.
Can any cadre who has the ANCYL Congress resolutions please forward them to me. engage the thought not the origin of the thought!! On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:42 AM, LUCKY MASUKU <[email protected]>wrote: > My leader > > I honestly do not think that the manner in which both of you are handling > this discussion is in the interest of this forum. You cannot at any stage > constest, who is a better member of the ANC, i think we are all equally, and > we also welcome the supporters to campaign for the ANC. > > I know for the Fact that Cde Tom is part of the Leaders that heading the > Election Team in the region. I think both of has indeed attend politically > school of the different structures of the our organisation. > > Lets differ on principle not on personality. Cde Funky i do nt think my > leader you have right to tell people that they are not members of the ANC. I > think that is extremely out of order. > > MY ANC, MY VISION, MY FUTURE > > ------------------------------ > *From:* KGALE GODFREY MAILA <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected]; [email protected] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:25:00 PM > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Outrageous Disrespect for our Elders and > Leaders > > > > Mr. Tom > > Unfortunately forum members have to witness this drama, very > unnecessarilly. I suggest we engage each other outside of this important > platform, rather one on one [you can copy your friends], so that we > allow space for fundamental debates to take place in this forum. > > I am available, enough time to engage you up until after elections as I > am released from government work to do ANC Election Work in Mpulanga > Province until election date. > > That is the extend of my involvement, as a card carry member. I > encourage you to start taking Mahampandlofu Branch serious, sigh the > membership form, and attend the meetings, please. > > You not for a fact that you are not attending, why lie? > > No time for rethoric here. > > Funky > > >>> [email protected] 01/29/09 2:45 PM >>> > > I thought I would dare respond to your nonseniscal piece. I am not > raising this view out of anger I am asking you when are you going to > change from your character of two persons who want to claim to be one of > US while you know you are not. I do not need to response to your > accusation of my membership as you not either an administrator of my > Branch of ANC and that of ANCYL. Hence when you talk of membership you > should ask yourself if your are a true member in Good standing or not. I > do not need to account to your on the multiple membership I have of the > Alliance partner with the exception of SANCO of course hence your > failure to defend this revolution but rather smuggle issues from the > back door does not assist. You see Maila, I do not have problem with > being called Mr. Tom because I am sure that I am straight. You see do > not enter a battle you do not know Funky. The question which you keep > diving to answer is What is that Cde Blade has done to such an Extend > that you hate him so much? I s it because he does hail from Bokoni? or > what. I did tried to paint the background around a number of sinister > views you hold against Alliance leaders amybe because you are not a > member of any of this Organisation. I could go ahead and challenge you > the same of what organisation do you belong. I am speaking from an > informed position around your views which are not aimed at unifying us > into a common cause. Thats Working Together we can Do More. hence i > asked are you one of US or you are trying to take us out of the momentum > towards a decisive Victory. > > Lastly maybe I should clearly states to you that I prefer to call > myself Cde Tom not because it is Fashionable but due to the > Consciousness and Oath I took when I became a member of SACP, ANC, ANCYL > etc. that I will defend and undertake the work of both the SACP, ANC and > the Alliance partners. > > If I did not understood you then clarfy us what do you mean by this > statement" I fully agree with you on the behaviour of media, but isn't > it that /or dont you think that "maybe" the media was fed with this > arnachy, in particular from within the Alliance, specifically the one > who want to be a "super minister" or Deputy President, in that he thinks > he played a bigger role leading up to polokwane and therefore he has to > be paid back in these two ways OR nothing else???" > > My response to you was informed by own analysis that you tone here is > not to create a conducive level of engagement but rather continue to > polarise the Alliance so that the same Capitals that controls media and > maybe your life too could push ahead with weakening the ANC led > Alliance. > > Lastly as you allege as a Sympathiser I am off for now to prepare for > the Political Education for the Branch on the Approach to reach out to > both majority and in particular the Manority in the Constituency I > belong. Hope to engage with you sometimes in future but also based on > facts and not Gossip like all this media has turned to be. > > I remain > Cde Tom Mutshidza > 012 841 3241 > 076 092 7885 > > > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions, > e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF) > standard. > The full disclaimer details can be found at > http://www.csir.co.za/disclaimer.html. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by > MailScanner, > and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for > their support. > > > > > > > > -- Yours Sincerely Senzo Ncongolo 0743618139 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. 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