No need to worry my leader - there's a new sherif in Town! On 2/2/09, Percy Malatsi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Chief, maybe you are right I might not be that intelligent but one thing > I know is that giving two individuals a government deal of R150 million > rands and we say we are addressing poverty? > > I don't know? where you wake up c'de but let me remind the very same RDP > houses, social grants, roads, or whatever that we engaged to help the least > of them all - we were actually enriching ourselves first! I don't know? > > I am just worried that who is doing a good job there in the government! > It seems like everyone is just in for something! > > >>> <[email protected]> 2009/02/02 02:20 PM >>> > > Chief look we do not have time to discuss tissues in this forum, we > discuss issues. Please cdes raise healthy issues next time. I don't want > even to argue with you about the so called "Corruptness of the ANC". I am > not competent to judge your intellectual capacity and your level of > content analyses. It is not important that I need to dwell much on what > you are raising. > > The only thing I want to tell you is that the ANC will regain the mandate > from the people of South Africa in the upcoming elections with increased > numbers indeed. The people of South Africa understand that it is not > corrupt to get free RDP houses, healthy water, roads, electicity, freedom, > democracy, human rights, social grants for children, elderly, disability, > and to have public institutions serving people without regard to race, > culture, age, gender, and any form of discrimination. > > The issue of name calling to the ANC is not VERY INTERESTING neither a > priority but changing the lives of the people for the better is central on > its duty. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > "In every triumph there`s a lot `try`: Frank Tyger > > > > From: Percy Malatsi [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 02 February 2009 08:52 > > To: Erick Mokgabudi > > Subject: FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: VERY INTERESTING READ! > > > > > > > > Interesting topics, maEr. My quality question is why do they come at this > > disturbing hour? > > > > > > > > We need people to come up and discuss issues like these not because > > something is wrong or when there are elections coming up. But because > they > > are a concern to all of us. > > > > > > > > Although the argument of the c'de below holds water and needs some > serious > > looking into. I still feel strong about the corruptness of The ANC! They > > themselves have neglected the mass and enriched a few individuals!!! Now > > there are problems with the people they enriched and they start to > address > > the problems they neglected!!!! > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > >>>> "Erick Mokgabudi" <[email protected]> 2009/02/02 08:25 AM > >>>> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "In every triumph there`s a lot `try`: Frank Tyger > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Siyabonga > Mdlalose > > Sent: 27 January 2009 12:13 > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: VERY INTERESTING READ! > > > > > > > > Howzit ma cdes, > > > > > > > > The matter you are touching upon is very sensitive and some people need > to > > answer. What ever happened that time needs to be investigated and I know > > that even though it is not in the public knowledge – The Big Guys are > > working behind the scenes.. Watch the space!!! > > > > > > > > Siyabonga Mdlalose > > > > > > > > Telephone Number: 031 792 4200 > > Facsimilie: 031 792 4240 > > Cell Phone Number: 082 809 7097 > > Email address: [email protected] > > Website :www.compass.za.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of siphakanyiswa > > khanyile > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Siyabonga Mdlalose; [email protected]; > > [email protected] > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: VERY INTERESTING READ! > > > > > > > > This is the type of political information we need to discuss in this > forum > > ma cdes, hot stuff > > > > Thanks , Cde Zama , one thing for sure we do really need to watch the > > former Defence minister but let us be carefull not to let him finish our > > valued comrades as it is happening in KZN now. > > > > > > > > Cde's what happened with the weopons that had gone missing at the SANDF > > during Lekotas time as a minister , what was the findings of the > > investigation if any was conducted. Why do we see Cde's that supported > > Msholozi being killed ''Its happening in KZN. Remember that Lekota have > > shown hatred for Msholozi that we were all suprised as to what was his > > agenda really. > > > > > > > > Amandla Maqabane > > > > > > > > Cde, Sphaka (Dawnpark) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:24:55 AM > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] VERY INTERESTING READ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: VERY INTERESTING READ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Some food for thought. Read below > > > > As always your intellectual thoughts are welcomed. We must debate > > issues vigorously and back it up with facts so that we make RSA a better > > place to live in. I know some us will ask the following questions re-the > > writer of this article, it's up to an individual to believe THULA the > > writer > > > > (But who is this Thula? how come we only heard of him now? where does he > > come from? What is the purpose of him writing this, is he not in the > > campaign to destroy COPE Leaders? If so is he doing SA a good thing? > > What is his agenda? Anyway like I said judge for yourself. > > > > > > THULA BOPHELA (writes) > > > > "The question we need to ask is what is it about blacks that make them > > turn against their own, once they have made it through the door of > > opportunity" > > > > Around 1995 Bongani Khumalo appointed me as his Corporate Affirmative > > Action Manager at Eskom, the power utility. He was Human Resources > > Director then at Megawatt Park, Eskom Headquarters. I left Durban where > > I had been working as Electrification Manager, Coastal, and went to work > > at Megawatt Park. > > > > > > > > The first task Bongani gave me was to assess the status of Affirmative > > Action at Eskom and make a presentation to the Management Board where he > > also sat. What he was telling me to do in fact was to make an assessment > > of the employee profile at Eskom and show which racial group occupied > > which positions in the Eskom hierarchy, nationally. > > > > > > > > I went to Human Resources and asked to be given the information > > regarding how many white males, white females, black males and black > > females occupied management positions. I then prepared my presentation > > and appeared before the Management Board. The presentation revealed that > > 80% of Eskom managers were white males; 10% were white females, and 7% > > were black males, with the last 3% occupied by black females. > > > > > > > > After this presentation, the Board tasked me to come up with a plan that > > would bring black male and female managers from 10% to 25% by the end of > > 1996. The plan I came up with required a massive promotion of male and > > female black managers and the appointment of a great number of black > > people to management positions. That was when the problem started. > > > > > > > > White managers were opposed to the plan, and they put up resistance. > > They did not say so openly, but they resorted to strategies that would > > make the plan fail. When posts were advertised, they stipulated the > > number of years of experience in a particular job that were required. > > Many blacks had degrees but did not have the required number of years of > > experience. So they could not be considered for the vacant positions. > > The reason why they did not have the required experience was because > > they had been barred from holding management positions. Experience was > > now being used as a weapon to exclude them from being appointed to these > > positions. > > > > > > > > I obtained from the Board a ruling that blacks should be appointed on > > the basis of potential, not experience, which they could not have > > because of previous exclusion. The situation began to improve, though > > not fast enough. One white manager I spoke to about mentoring blacks so > > that they could master their jobs quickly, asked me how many years I > > would take to dig my own grave. I was puzzled by the question and before > > I could answer he said: 'You see Thula, mentoring a black is like > > digging my own grave. When the black has learned everything about my > > job, he will then take over, I will be sent to retirement. If you > > people therefore want me to dig my own grave, I will take a lifetime > > doing it.' > > > > > > > > Then a strange thing happened. Black managers, who had been lucky enough > > to be appointed, turned against Affirmative Action! They refused to > > appoint other blacks to management positions and instead promoted > > whites. Some were overheard saying 'In my department, I am the only > > black executive'. Being the only black executive in a particular > > department meant to them that they were the best among blacks, and they > > shut the door in the faces of aspiring black colleagues. It gave them a > > thrill to sit in a boardroom where each was the only black person, > > surrounded by a sea of white faces. Affirmative Action had opened a door > > for them, but once they were in, they shut the door and locked it. > > > > > > > > This brings us comrades to the heart of why gentlemen like Mr. Lekota > > have been heard to argue that Affirmative Action should be scrapped. > > They say it disadvantages whites! Lekota said this when he was Defence > > Minister, saying it was time to start appointing South Africans on the > > basis of skill and experience, not skin colour. I am told that the black > > generals who heard him saying it told him that Affirmative Action could > > not be stopped....because it had not even started in the Defence Force. > > Leadership in the Defence Force, even to-day, is still predominantly > > white. Yet, there was our black Defence Minister saying AA should be > > scrapped, because it disadvantaged whites! > > > > > > > > He repeated it again last week, addressing the Jewish Board, and the > > papers report that he had to pause several times to allow the applause > > he got to subside. This was vintage Lekota, sucking up to whites! When I > > worked for him in the Ministry of Defence, he came back to his office > > from Parliament where he had been attacked severely for ignoring the > > plight of black Military Veterans. I put together a plan to address the > > plight of MK and APLA Veterans and gave it to him, and he did nothing > > about it. The plan was simple. It required the government to do the > > following for the Military Veterans: > > > > > > > > * Prioritize the MK/APLA Veterans in the Housing Scheme which the > > government is already implementing under Minister Lindiwe Sisulu, and > > get them out of the shacks where they are currently living with their > > families > > > > > > > > *Give them access to free medical treatment in the Military hospitals > > present in all the nine provinces, a privilege only enjoyed by > > members of the former SADF who have retired. Veterans die of curable > > diseases like TB because they have no medical aid > > > > * Allocate bursaries to their children who cannot pay school fees > > because of the poverty of their parents. Veterans have no jobs and many > > are unemployable because of serious illness and low education > > > > *Arrange repatriation of the remains of those Veterans who fought and > > died in foreign countries > > > > *Pay membership fees to burial schemes that already exist, so that when > > they die they have a decent burial. A dedicated burial Acre could be > > organized in all provinces where dead Veterans will be buried, instead > > of having to purchase burial space from municipalities. > > > > > > > > By the way comrades we are not talking about a large number of people > > here. Veterans have been dying away since they came back to their > > motherland. I estimated at the time that the Veterans who could receive > > this assistance do not number more than 30,000. These are people who > > fought in armies where they received no salaries or pensions. They freed > > their land, but got nothing from their government. Lekota threw this > > plan away, the Minister of Defence. > > > > When he resigned his position as Minister of Defence Popcru said 'Good > > riddance to bad rubbish!'His Ministry at the time of resignation was > > said to be riddled with tribalism, nepotism, incompetence and gross > > neglect of the welfare of black soldiers. He is out there, > > criss-crossing the country with his crony, Mluleki George (former > > Deputy Defence Minister) accusing the ANC of all sorts of things and > > claiming to be the defender of democracy, the judiciary, the > > constitution and the Freedom Charter. His main concern to-day is to see > > to it that whites are not disadvantaged! Affirmative Action should go, > > he says, to deafening applause from his white audiences! > > > > Affirmative Action was not coined and implemented to disadvantage > > whites. It was put in place to correct the socio-economic imbalances > > that the ANC government inherited when it took power in 1994. > > > > Take the Housing Scheme. Why is it implemented for blacks, and not > > whites? Is it designed to disadvantage whites? No sir. Whites have > > houses and do not need any housing scheme. The scheme is directed at the > > shack-dwellers who are invariably black. Where do whites live? In > > suburbs. Who are the people who toyi-toyi all the time, protesting about > > the notorious bucket-scheme, water supply, lack of proper health > > facilities and schools? Which children walk over twenty kilometres to > > school, and frequently have to learn under trees because there are no > > classrooms? White children? No sir, ours. > > > > The largest number of people who are without jobs in this country are > > black. The highest poverty levels are found among us. Even those that > > are employed have to toyi-toyi all the time to get just a small > > percentage increase to their wages. When the teachers went on strike for > > two months, asking for a 11% increase in their salaries, white teachers > > were prominent by their absence. Why? Their salaries are satisfactory. > > COSATU is the largest and the noisiest labour federation in the country. > > Why? Because their membership, which is predominantly black, is the > > poorest. Terror Lekota knows all this, but his major concern these days > > is that whites are being disadvantaged! > > > > > > > > He told his white audience that it is unfair to the young whites that > > his children, those of Tokyo Sexwale and Cyril Ramaphosa should still be > > > > regarded as disadvantaged and be affirmed at the expense of young white > > South Africans who had nothing to do with Apartheid. A very interesting > > argument. Affirmative Action of course is not needed by children of > > people like him who have since 1994 become multi-millionaires. It is for > > the sons and daughters of those who have meanwhile remained poor or even > > sunk deeper into poverty. How many black families have fathers and > > mothers who own oil and wine companies like Lekota, and he uses himself > > and his personal circumstances to measure the need for the scrapping of > > Affirmative Action! > > > > When Lekota was addressing his Convention at Sandton (note the venue), > > one of the people present at the rally said: 'I am a product of > > Affirmative Action, I owe everything that I am to-day to Affirmative > > Action. I am a professional now. Don't you see Mr. Lekota that present > > in this room is the cream of the country? We give you the mandate here > > and now to form the party that will lead us!' > > > > There it is; Shikota belongs to those who, through Affirmative Action, > > have made it to the top and now want to have nothing to do with the > > party of the poor, the ANC. The question we need to ask is what is it > > about blacks that make them turn against their own, once they have made > > it through the door of opportunity? I saw it happen at Eskom and I > > wondered. When the National Party took power in 1948, one of their most > > important goals was to wipe out white poverty, and they did. Their > > Affirmative Action removed poor whites from the street corners where > > they stood begging on to well-paid jobs and decent housing. Can't we > > learn this lesson, even from such a depraved party as the National > > Party? Our Affirmative Action benefits only a few among us, and once > > those few have benefited, they turn their backs on the rest of us, and > > champion the Cause of whites. Africans make me think of a great number > > of old women and men who live lives of great poverty in the shack > > settlements, because the children they raised and educated, at great > > sacrifice, now live in suburbs and have forgotten about them. > > > > Gwede Mantashe speaking in East London this week-end told us that the > > imperialists have always complained that the ANC is too strong. They > > said it needs to be divided, weakened and defeated. Why? > > > > Mantashe was giving us a broader view of what is going on in South > > Africa. He was telling us to observe the 'hand' that moves certain > > politicians from the ANC to Shikota. Yes, local politicians are doing > > the talking, but the whole thing is orchestrated from beyond our shores. > > > > The great Julius Nyerere, Rais waJamhuri yaTanzania, (former President > > of Tanzania), told his nation a fable of the trees and axes. He said > > that the axes and the trees lived peacefully side-by-side. Their > > children played together, and the elders sat in the shade watching their > > children growing up. Then one day, the young trees came running to > > report to the older tress that the axes had attacked them. They said > > that some of them were dead or too injured to move and that they had > > left them behind. The axes had chopped them down. The older trees were > > amazed and confused. How could axes that had no handles chop a tree > > down? When they went to look, they saw the reason; the axes now had > > handles, and the handles were made of wood! Other trees had agreed to > > become handles to the axes, and that is how the axes had become > > powerful enough to cut the other trees. > > > > Nyerere was telling his nation that British MI6 had found a spy among > > his ministers, and the minister happened to be his Defence Minister. A > > coup was attempted against Nyerere, because the imperialists had learned > > that Nyerere planned to implement socialism in Tanzania, ujamaa. The > > coup failed. This is what Gwede was warning the nation about. > > > > That is why we hear our leaders talking about 'counter-revolutionaries'. > > Julius Malema puts it even more strongly: 'We are prepared to kill for > > Zuma!' Although to many people Julius sounds like a mad young > > politician, he is not. He spends time with people like Gwede, Blade, > > Buti Manamela and Fikile Mbalula and he gets to know that the split in > > the ANC is being engineered, financed and masterminded form overseas > > capitals. > > We need to watch these African Defence Ministers, Comrades. Amandla! > > Thula Bophela is the Chief of Security in Parliament, and holds nobody > > accountable for the ideas he expresses in this article. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > > DISCLAIMER ________________________________________________________________ > This communication is sent from the SABS group of Companies and complies > with the Communication requirements of the Companies ACT. 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