Comrade Ronnie,

I do not know why do you escalate the matter of communicating to your
leadership of Numsa to a forum of yclsa. It creates an impression that
leadership of NUMSA is inaccessible. For the record, Numsa office bearors
have visited VWSA more than 4 times since the year started.

As for the issues that you are raising, we had a succesful jobs security
conference where we came out with good resolutions, we just need to
popularise the outcomes and start engaging with stateholders. I am sure
issues that are being raised  by yourself could have been raised with a
comrade that attended on behalf of VWSA.

Thank you my leader.

Regards,

Cedric Gina.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Cakwebe, Ronnie <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Comrades in several meetings and discussions with comrades I always raise
> an issue about this request for bail-out by motor and auto employers.There
> has been several meetings with gorvt,labour and business and civil society
> at the level of Nedlac.There is also a presidential task team that has been
> formed.My argument in this is that as much as the industry is being affected
> by this global economic meltdown nothing is being said about how has this
> hit the pocket or the take home pay of a metalworker.Comrades it is clear
> there is no bail-out for metalworkers.After I have raised this issue with
> comrades Cde Irvin Jim also raised it in the Mbuyselo Ngwenda Memorial
> Lecture in P.E.So <http://p.e.so/> comrades I would like to make this
> appeal to the leadership of Numsa to prioritise this issue as it affects our
> members and to them the nearest person to vent their anger to is the shop
> steward.
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> COMRAEDLY.
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> Thank you comrade president, you have cleared my mind and that is what i
> call awareness of the masses so that we do not get confused and be dragged
> into legal matters that need the ruling of the court of law
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> Ndiyabulela Nkokheli
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> Comrade Zama and others,
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> We all saw in the news that the NPA  was to meet today and discuss the
> matter, some of us smell the victory.
>
> The issue of Mama Winnie, the ANC seeked an advice from their lawyers who
> advised that the constitution is silent on people who received suspended
> sentences and on that basis adviced the ANC to include the name of Mama
> Winnie. This is an issue of law, a court can decide if the ANC lawyers were
> correct or not, not a political party. All parties in South Africa say that
> they respect the rule of law, they must wait for the electoral court's
> decision, if they decide to raise the complaint with the electoral court.
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> I hope I have helped you my fellow metalworker, Cde Zama.
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> Regards,
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> Cedric Gina.
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> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  Revolutionary greetings
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>  Comrades could someone confirm the statement had over the radio this
>  morning about the NPA withdrawing charges against the ANC President Cde.
>  Jacob Zuma
>
>  Comrades I had that the IEC has proven some people otherwise that Mama
>  Winnie Madikizela-Mandela is eligible to be nominated into parliament.
>  Could some one clarify to me as how this happened, I know she was not
>  convicted rather given a suspended sentence as the verdict.
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>  My confusion is around the eligibility. I would like to know when someone
>  eligible to be in parliament, is it five years after served your sentence
>  or is it five years from the day you were sentenced and would like to
>  know
>  the length of sentences for being found eligible to be part in
>  parliament.
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>  Comrades I am a loyal ANC-led structures member and would like to be able
>  to answer these questions when asked as we sometimes come across legal
>  gurus who tend to confuse us. so please help
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