Cde President (Sabelo) you are quite right. We need to turn the ANC into a "disciplined force of the left", that is able to champion the interests of the working class, as the motive force of the National Democratic Revolution. This is the logical course of struggle we must continue to pursue within the ANC and broader mass democratic movement. I am saying logical course of our revolution because I am one of those who do not subscribe to the notion of the ANC being the broad church. We need to unapologetically entrench the working class hegemony within the ANC by participating in all its structures and contesting the content of its revolutionary agenda. We cannot arrogantly expect this to come on a silver platter, but we must lobby and campaign for this hegemony, without necessarily alienating those who sympathize with our course. I am not sure whether to agree with the approach of using "all legally permissible channels", because I do not think that we can regulate our comradely relationship through legal channels. This is the tendency that emerged post-Polokwane whereby we have witnessed comrades such as TM and others running to the courts of law for a legal recourse against the ANC and their own comrades. We must continue to engage through the structures of our movement, including the ANC, Party and COSATU, to contest the content of our struggle agenda and continue to persuade one another. In case of disputes or disagreements, our movement provides organizational recourse to resolve such, not necessarily the courts of law.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sabelo gina Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Gwede Mantashe a Disapointment to the Workers and the Poor Hi Comrades, I want to begin by saying that we want the ANC that is a "disciplined force of the left". The contemporary question should then say, Post- Polokwane, have we achieved that in a manner that we want. My answer will be no, we must continue to use all legaly permissible channels to mobilise for the hegemony of the working class agenda in the ANC through active participation in the structures of the ANC. Numsa is happy that COSATU CEC was persuaded to make this campaign, a Federation campaign. We also know that the Governor will meet NUMSA leadership on 15 June 2009 in the offices wheer he refused to come out and receive the memorandum. I thank you, Sabelo Gina. On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Mamphekgo,Steve (GPDPR) <[email protected]> wrote: I fully concur with comrade Kanego and Morgan on this matter. I think that there is high level of arrogance prevailing amongst some of us, as comrades, which creates a wrong impression that we have got sole title deed over this revolution. We need to begin to engage each other in an honest and comradely manner, and remain principled cadres throughout the course of our struggle. I do not completely share the sentiments expressed by Cde Gwede during the NUMSA Conference, but I believe that we must remain sober in addressing what we think to be wrong amongst ourselves, particularly as communists and members of the ANC. Two wrongs will never make right. It doesn't help to use this platform galling Cde Gwede as though we are dealing with some counter-revolutionary. Let us use our organizational structures and platforms in addressing the discontent we may have about one another. Let us accord Cde Gwede the necessary respect primarily as one of us, a comrade, one of the leaders of our revolution, senior leader of both the ANC and SACP. Chill maqabane! ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of morgan phaahla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Gwede Mantashe a Disapointment to the Workers and the Poor Well said comrade and I wish everyone could take cue from your earnest appeal to recognise common variants of our movement led by the ANC. We always preach collectivism but when practised we cry foul and question the bona fide of the messenger. Let's practice what we preach in principle - not by preference or selectively. I trust cde Kanego has brought finality to this debate, unless otherwise there's an exigency. I remain, Morgan Phaahla "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - Joe Slovo --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Kanego, Clarence Thete <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kanego, Clarence Thete <[email protected]> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Gwede Mantashe a Disapointment to the Workers and the Poor To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:01 PM Your views on Cde Gwede are flawed and a disrespect to a real Communist and Cadre. The African National Congress is not the SACP nor COSATU so Cde Gwede cannot be expected to be the Chairperson of SACP in the capacity of the Secretary General of the ANC. I repeat myself on this matter, ask Cde Gwede in a meeting of the SACP about his view on the issue he will tell you what the SACP stand is on the matter of strikes. We will be fooled to expect Cde Gwede to echo the SACP stand in the capacity of ANC. This also reflects that we may be influential in terms of policy thrust of the ANC as the leading partner of the Tripartite Alliance, however we are not yet the strongest dominating force hence there are contradicting forces within this movement. On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:55 PM, NT Zwane <[email protected] ><http://us.mc502.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > wrote: Cadres Revolutionary greetings. What is Cde Gwede doing It doesn't even sound well anymore if I call him a cadre or comrade. I thought he was a unionist and a communist now he really showed the workers where his loyalty is situated. The workers are not the ones who started or created this economic crisis, no as Alex Mashilo says this Capitalist Crisis. How can one of our own come with this Stalinist tendencies of silencing workers. Gwede Mantashe must apologise to the workers and to the members of the Party. Workers are engaged in a permannet revolution, Comrades should not abandon the working class at the convenience of the cruel, evil Capitalist as one of my cadres said when i engaged him on this matter. If Gwede Mantashe really respects SACP which is the vanguard of the working class and the workers themselves he must withdraw this uncalled for statement. I was really impressed by cde Blade and Vavi when they showed where their loyalty is situated. A true communist will never sell out the masses like what Gwede Mantashe is doing. He is feeling comfortable at Luthuli House and he has forgotten how badly and cruel the workers are being treated at the work place. How can one forget so fast I wonder if he still keeps the Marxist and Leninist classics in his office or house or now he is reading ADAM SMITH and HOW TO GET RICH QUICKER AND EASIER THROUGH EXPLOITATION OF WORKERS. 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