Cde"s we must start focusing on real things we are the one crying abt job loss in south africa and now we want to add to that.lets focus on things that real affect us as young people .let give information how our sisters and brothers can change their lifes.iam original frm kzn but now iam full time at mpumalanga studied at G .P what i hav seen in this 3 provinces i hav bn its the same problem wher young people have no information about just simple information about Nsfas thinking that all people who go to universities are those with money or busaries.When waiting for free education let share the little we have and stop add problems to our goverment.we voted this goverment we must assist then killing it with minor issueses and in those sopies the ar young people who will loos their job.shame on sophie ndaba
On 6/12/09, sabelo gina <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrades, > > Is it the content or the soapies in general. My view is that media is > powerful and can be used to our advantage as a class and what needs to be > changed is the content of those soapies. Not all soapies are entirely bad- > Soapies like Isidingo had at some point had issues about the conditions of > mineworkers. Obviously, the Generations, for example does not want to > acknowledge that not far from they act, there is a black township called > SOWETO, it pretends as if we only have a city life in South Africa. > > > On a lighter note, I wish to see the minutes of the NWC of YCL that > discussed this matter! > > > Comradely, > > Sabelo Gina. > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Dominic Tweedie > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> *Forum comrades, please comment!* >> >> *[image: CitizenLogo]*** >> >> * * >> >> *Ban soapies: YCL* >> >> * * >> >> * * >> >> *CEDRIC MBOYISA, The Citizen, 12 June 2009* >> >> * * >> >> *From: http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=98080,1,22* >> >> * * >> >> JOHANNESBURG - If Young Communist League (YCL) spokesman Castro Ngobese >> has >> his way, soapies will be banned from South African television screens – >> just >> when President Jacob Zuma’s daughter, Gugulethu, has landed a role in the >> SABC soap *Isidingo*. >> >> >> >> “To begin with, soapies suck,” Ngobese said yesterday. >> >> >> >> “Without being populist or aspiring to be a populist, soapies must go,” he >> said. >> >> >> >> He argued that soapies, which are very popular throughout the country, are >> used by the rich to advance a capitalist agenda. >> >> >> >> “Marxism teaches us that soapies are programmes created for the elite for >> their own enjoyment and amusement. >> >> >> >> “Their main core function is that of reinforcing in the entertainment >> sphere a capitalist logic and morals which are necessary for the >> reproduction of a dog-eat-dog society,” he added. >> >> >> >> The *Beeld* newspaper yesterday reported that Gugulethu Zuma will soon >> star in *Isidingo*. >> >> >> >> Zuma, 24, is the daughter of the President and his former wife, Home >> Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma. >> >> She secured a role in the drama after three auditions and is scheduled to >> hit the nation’s TV screens on July 1 as Lesedi Moloi, a character who >> returns to South Africa after having lived abroad for five years. >> >> >> >> Zuma told *Beeld* that she was not really interested in politics. >> >> >> >> The daily flighting of soapie dramas such as *Scandal*,*Generations* and >> *Rhythm >> City* was meant to “defocus” the working class and the poor youth from the >> primary struggle – the class struggle, he said. >> >> >> >> “The reality is that most of our people cannot relate to this soapie >> circus; only a selected filthy rich (sic) can be co-opted to this opulent >> lifestyle as depicted in soapies,” he said. >> >> >> >> Asked by *The Citizen* whether he watched soapies, Ngobese said he did, >> but only in order to be able defend his anti-soapie stance. >> >> >> >> He called on the youth to disapprove of soapies by drawing on the >> “radicalism and militancy unleashed by the generation of 1976”. >> >> >> >> “Our revolution will not triumph if public institutions like the SABC are >> advancing programmes that are inconsistent with our revolutionary >> programme >> and they succumb to the whims and dictates of the ruling class,” he said.\ >> >> >> >> *[email protected]<http://www.citizen.co.za/index/%0d%0a%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20mailto:%[email protected]> >> * >> >> >> >> >> >> *What you say (** >> http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=98080,1,22*)** >> >> * * >> >> Just another coon wanting to blow his mouth of at something he does not >> understand. >> >> *Koos* >> 6/12/2009 9:23:46 AM >> >> >> >> It is high time Youth of SA should begin to behave in a highly sober >> minded >> and analyse what their so called self proclaimed leaders says on daily >> basis. Who the hell is Ngobese? to tell people that the soapies staffs are >> used by the rich to advance capitalism, that is ridiculous. How many >> brothers of ours who are getting paid through those programmes? Youth >> should >> wake up now is the time, anything that does not give either the ANCYL OR >> YCL >> a direct benefit it will ba called names. Is it because in one political >> debate organized by the Mpho Tsedu a son to the chief editor of citypress >> Mathata Tsedu against Hlomla before the elections their tsedu was taken >> from >> the work go through debate, is this the reason why soapies should be >> banned? >> Come Ngobese why understanding that people are from different schools of >> thought, it indicate clearly that you are from a school of doomed more >> especially on Maxism. Dont continuously read document upside down, in fact >> you are an embarrassment. >> >> *Simon* >> 6/12/2009 9:02:05 AM >> >> >> >> Well seems like the YCL should be rather termed the Young Confused League, >> because despite all their masquarades and misplaced understanding of >> communism, it has not worked anywhere in the world and history can show >> that. Countries like china after years of failure moved to capitalism and >> now are the Global giant, Russia as well amongst others, so Castro get >> your >> facts right and contribute progressively to this Country. You are really >> pathetic!!!!! >> >> *JOKONIYA* >> 6/12/2009 8:56:18 AM >> >> >> >> The leaders i respect are those that embrace diversity and freedom for >> people to choose. Its sad that everyday someone has anti-ism issue to air >> out there. That's not radicalism but misplaced and misinterpretation of a >> failed maxism. >> >> *Tshepo* >> 6/12/2009 8:09:38 AM >> >> >> >> Castro Ngobese, it is time the youth league grows up. You and your lot >> sounds like a soapie, going on and on and on and on and on and >> on........... >> Rather get some education and improve your comrades' lives!!!!!! After you >> have grown up, call yourself the ADULT LEAGUE >> >> *Ziggy* >> 6/12/2009 7:29:21 AM >> >> >> >> YCL with its Castro are living in their own world twisted by misguided >> Marxist ideologies which have failed dismally. I think Castro reads too >> much >> of Marxist nonsense and tries disparately to apply it in this modern world >> which has discarded communism. Who(YCL & Castro)think they are to decide >> what should happen with TV programmes? Marxist ideology? >> >> *James* >> 6/12/2009 7:20:25 AM >> >> >> >> I wouldn't mind if they ban soapies. Although my reasons are very >> different >> from this militant nonsense. >> >> My life is already a soapie! I don't need TV to show me greed, hatred, >> fighting and bad relationships. >> >> Rather give me something that expands the mind. National Geo. Discovery. >> >> I don't get this soapie mania. During the elections people even voted >> based >> on soapie star affiliations! How sad is that? They are people like >> everybody >> else. They even go to the loo just like me and you! >> >> *Anti-Soapie* >> 6/12/2009 7:19:32 AM >> >> >> >> *To comment, go to >> http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=98080,1,22* >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. 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