Eish...askies comrades, the earlier message was meant for cde Phil's eyes only. Technological ettiquete justb deserted me for a while there!
Tsakxs. 072 714 5967 -----Original message----- From: "Philemon Lukhele" [email protected] Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:15:52 +0300 To: Teltrace Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Who owns the succession debate? > Dear Cdes > > > > I have realized that as the left we might be once again caught up in yet > another succession debate; this time its seems more of when should it > start and who should start it? Interestingly, COSATU and Tokyo Sexwale > for whatever reasons has become proponents for what has be termed " THE > SECOND TERM DISCOURSE". > > > > We who might be distance from the corridors of power might not be privy > to the real essence of why the debate should start now, who should start > and what should be the political essence of such a debate. Whether we > agree or not, the mere introduction of this subject matter will feed > well in the media sensational agenda and as society we shall be > compelled to respond in various different ways. > > > > What the left view on this matter? My view is that lets debate it > frankly and avoid being led by the media on this discourse. I have > personally observed and unfriendly interaction on this subject matter > between COSATU and the YL because of how COSATU introduces the matter. > > > > Is there a point for discussion on this matter, if there is, what are > the principles? > > > > Phile > > > > > > > > From: Thami Ncokwane [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:42 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Floyd Shibambo; Alex Mohubetswane; Babalwa Ntabeni; Ufhatisana > Cooperative; David Mayimela; Dineo Moloele; EMMANUEL MDAWU; Emmanuel > Mdawu; Fannie Maseko; Fred Mokoko; Fanie Maseko; Fezile Ngqobe; Godfrey > Segoahla; Hamilton; Philemon Lukhele; Jacob Khawe; Jacob Khawe; Jabu > Zwane; Kenneth Siphiwe Bhoodu; Kgopotso Kwapeng; Buitumelo Kgaladi; > Buitumelo Kgaladi; Nkhensani Kubayi; Lebogang Maile; Percy Mthimkhulu; > Thulani Malatsi; Buti Manamela; Vuyo Mhlakaza; Jomo Jacobs; Selby > Mdluli; Tebogo Makona; [email protected]; Nandipha Zonela; Fezile > Ngqobe; Arthur Radebe; M T Ronyuza; Mzukisi Ronyuza; Rassy Ntlemeza > (GPEDU); Reginald Marimi; Sabelo Ngwane; Sabelo Ngwane; Russel Mulamula; > Shirley M; Prince Leburu; Timoti Duka; Tim Duka; Thabo Kupa; Thabo Kupa; > Tsakane Mahlaule; Tsakane Mahlaule; Tshepo Mafolo; Matshidiso Mfikoe; > Tshidi Mfikoe; Tankiso Fafuli; Tebogo Ezekiel Modise; Ujhbsrc; Nash > Nephawe; Vasco Ndebele; Vlok; Vusi Mzobe; Vuyo (Johannesburg) Mhlakaza; > Vuyo Mhlakaza; Wyne Mathiso; [email protected]; John > Mnisi; Zakes Mnisi; Thamsanqa Ncokwane > Subject: Invitation to join a Book Club > > > > Hi Cadres, > > > > I thought I must share this with your goodselves. We have for some time > been talking amongst comrades and friends of the ANC about a need to > have a book "review" club or whatever the name you think is appropriate, > the gist of the matter is that we need a platform for young people to > read and reflect on their understanding on what is under review. > Concurrent with the issue of a book club, I would have also raised a > need to have a Youth Development Forum in Soweto [in can be in any > township, I stay in Soweto and that the reason) and to that effect, we > also circulated a draft document written by myself, Felix and Makase > (unfortunately now late). > > > > Whilst all of you were still wondering on the correctness of this > Project, in Pimville we proceeded and now have Pimville Klipspruit Youth > Development Forum (PKYDF), a Youth Centre (constructed through our IDP > submission) and will be launching our Book Club in July - all this goes > with a lot of lessons in the process and we are ready to share this with > yourselves as activists who have a background in communities that needs > your services and most of the time are no where to be found because you > are "too busy" - on a lighter note. > > > > The issue of book collection and reading is a matter of discipline. I > personally since the last time I raised this issue (2 years ago) with a > number of comrades, can confirm that I have collected 31 books through > exclusive books it is a compromise a one bottle of whiskey or any other > drink in a month. I have not completed reading all of them I must > confess but can tell you that they are very helpful as my reference > material on matters that from time to time I am requested to make > reflections on as an activist, more importantly as a veteran student and > youth activist [for sure no one contest this view] - the sooner we start > at a more coordinated and larger scale the better. Lets agree that > common sense in the movement has cost us dearly and this initiative will > in one way or the other help us contribute in turning the tide. > > > > We have a list of 10 books we will start with and have lined up people > who will be leading presentations on dates to be agreed upon soon and > will welcome any additional recommended books. I have volunteered to > present in the first book review sessions in July - A book by Moky > Makura on the Best African Entrepreneurs (not its exact title) I will be > giving more details in my next communique that will only go to those who > will have indicated their interest on the project. Bye for now as there > is work to be done - Amandla!!! > > > > Ncokwane Thami. > > 076 035 8999. > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. 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