comrades hits the truth:1.communists obey the law to promote,protect,&preserve human rights in general and workclass interests in particular! Our national constitution is for human rights and us communists for workingclass within the law against anyone,party or class that undermines class &rights!
BrendanLee wrote: > i dislike the idea of Lawlessness when discussing striking. > the reason why the soldiers broke the law, is because it is against > the law for them to strike, hence the court order. > it can be argued that they shouldn't have behaved in a violant manner, > which the YCL recognised. > however in the absence of an alternate mode for soldiers disputes to > take place (as exists in the UK with independent commissions) they > have every right to break the law because it is this same law that is > stopping them from trying to gain a wage that can actually maintain > there families well being. > the minster should not have dismissed the soldiers because it was the > only way they could get there voices heard. > lets stop opposing justified action by accusing it of being unlawful. > comrades we must remember that the law is a mechanism of the state and > the state only exists to maintain capitalism. > as for WIVL please only engage if you have something productive to > say. your cheap bickering's are offensive. > Brendan > On Sep 1, 5:28 pm, "Sibusiso Mimi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> If this was coming from an organization with a constituency this would >> be rich and worth engaging, Shaheed, unfortunately it comes from few >> individuals who imagine having a constituency! What constitute an >> organization is not cheap politicking, bright ideas and imaginary >> constituency... but a vision and programme of action! I'm yet to see >> this coming from WIVL! >> >> Where is your General Secretary Shaheed? Sympathizing with your state of >> affairs, I thought I should warn you not to be alarmed when no one is >> interested to respond to your nonsense. >> >> Why has it become so fashionable for people to go around throwing >> insults on legitimate leaders of our revolutionary movement? If your >> interest was really not about stealing the spot light and shifting the >> focus away from a genuine issue which deserves the attention of cdes >> here, you would have bothered to find proper channels of engaging the >> YCL and SACP. >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of WIVL >> Sent: 01 September 2009 04:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: YCLSA condemns the dismissal of soldiers >> by the Minister of Defence and Military veterans >> >> Comrades >> >> Now here is a thought; while the YCLSA condemns the apartheid-style mass >> dismissal of the soldiers, your General Secretary sits in Cabinet, and >> backs the dismissal; it's time the real communists in the SACP wrote an >> open letter to him to come out of the closet (cabinet take your pick) >> >> Greetings >> >> Shaheed Mahomed >> >> [email protected] >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Tshidiso <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Date: 2009/09/01 03:44:52 nm >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: YCLSA condemns the dismissal of soldiers >> >> by the Minister of Defence and Military veterans >> >> Mxolisi >> >> Now that you have provided some context in the "temporary dismisal" >> dismisal >> >> matter by the Minister, can we then agree that the matter is not >> >> finish-en-klaar as it has been implied that the Minister has dismissed, >> >> finish-en-klaar! So lets all relax and help the process to take a >> positive >> >> turn, instead of the ongoing lashing and bashing >> >> Amandla >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Mxolisi Mlatha" <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:36 PM >> >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: YCLSA condemns the dismissal of soldiers >> by >> >> the Minister of Defence and Military veterans >> >> It is a "temporary dismissal".In this context, to put it >> >> otherwise meaning that a person is first dismissed and then >> >> given an opportunity to prove his or her innocence. This is >> >> a travesty of justice, there seems to be an inherent >> >> disregard for due process. Indicating that the implication >> >> of the decision might also not have been thoroughly >> >> digested. >> >> Mxolisi >> >> --- >> >> Sent from UnionMail Service [http://mail.union.org.za] >> >> __________ NOD32 4385 (20090831) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4386 (20090901) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=109096&rui=109952099> >> >> >> >> image001.gif >> 7KViewDownload >> >> image002.gif >> 48KViewDownload >> >> 109090117290601402.gif >> 69KViewDownload > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. 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