Peter Manson, you anarchist, we are still waiting for your WIVL friend Shaheed Mohamed to show us where Lenin, as he (Shaheed) claimed in a recent loose e-mail, denounced the National Democratic Revolution. He will never be able to do so, because the opposite was the case.
What is certain is that Lenin said that the anarchists and the opportunists were twins, which remains just as true today. One of the consequences of this is that both the anarchists and the opportunists end up with the same slogan, which is the same as yours here: Isolate the working class! Make them go it alone! Cut them out and leave them out! They all want to attack our alliance. We reject that. The difference between our successful practice of unity-in-action class alliance, and collaboration, is not that one component may be a fraction of the bourgeoisie. On the contrary, it is necessary to split the bourgeoisie and therefore to have part of the bourgeoisie in our alliance, just as Lenin's Bolsheviks of old allied with the peasantry. About a quarter of a century ago you used to call yourself "The Leninist", so I am sure you will know where Lenin, too, expressed the view that we, unlike yourself, still share with him. If you have forgotten, don't worry, the Communist University is going to assist you. Please continue to read it. Alliance is the very spirit of the communists as expressed in their hammer-and-sickle emblem. Alliance has a Unity in Action programme that is not a bourgeois programme, but it is a revolutionary programme; and a revolutionary programme cannot be achieved without alliance. Now, please, Peter Manson, you petty-bourgeois London trouble-maker, do read and digest the Communist University on the topic of the NDR for a few more days before you come bursting in here with your premature Trotskyist "revolution betrayed" ejaculations. Yours is only an infantile disorder. Please, man,try to grow up at last. I agree, it is not easy. But do please try to follow. VC 2009/9/15 Peter <[email protected]> > I have another question. Isn't it also class collaboration to unite with > pro-business forces in a capitalist government? Imagine, for example, > communists taking up ministerial posts in a government whose policy has been > to privatise public services and resist workers' demands for better wages > and conditions in order to protect profits. Imagine them speaking out > against strikes and even sending in the state's forces to defeat them. > Imagine them actually fronting the privatisation drive. Imagine them heading > the bourgeoisie's intelligence services. > In short, isn't it class collaboration to help run capitalism? > Best wishes from London > Peter Manson > Weekly Worker > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, September 14, 2009 6:48 PM > *Subject:* [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Alliance vs. Coalition > > The distinction that you have to get right is between class alliance > (usually good) and class collaboration (always bad). > Class alliance is unity in action for a specific goal, or a joint minimum > programme. It is negotiated on an equal basis. > > Alliance means a unity between different things. Hence it is wrong to say > that COSATU is "affiliated" to the ANC, for example. They are allies. They > are not members of each other. They are separate, and different in kind, but > allied. > > Class collaboration is when you unite with the bosses, on the bosses' > unilateral terms. That's not good, comrades. > > Coalition usually refers to an arrangement between political parties in > government together. It just means "gathering together" in a general way, > usually of organisations that are similar in nature, e.g. political parties. > > VC > > > > > 2009/9/14 Mbulelo Ngaba <[email protected]> > >> Cdes >> >> >> >> Can anyone draw for me a distinction between the 2 political terms,i.e. >> alliance and coalition. I am requesting this in the context of the current >> action by opposition parties to form a coalition against the ruling party. >> It may be understandable as far as parliamentary politics and democracy, but >> what are the distinct features of each. >> >> >> >> Socialism is the future. 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