When are we going to discuss politics real politicals that are of real matiril 
to our poeple, when are we going to initial inharite the true meaning of our 
vanguardism are we all popularist , come on comrades this has went to far we 
are detoriating ourselfes to political babons is the future of our politics in 
these laim hand try and be subjective rather this charecther assasination that 
is going on in this blog we are communist is in it


--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Clarity Needed
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 12:55 AM

I think there are mistakes here, comrade Senzo, having to do in the first place 
with mass and vanguard.
We as communists, being a vanguard organisation of professional revolutionaries 
with a mission to organise, educate and mobilise, strive to assist all 
self-conscious masses of people to organise themselves.

This includes the organisation of women, in women's mass organisations. The 
question is not: "Why does the Party not have a Women's Section?" but is 
rather: "Why has the Party not managed to assist the organisation of an 
autonomous mass national women's movement?"

In the past this was done by establishing the Federation of South African Women 
(FEDSAW) in 1954, under the leadership of Dora Tamana, Ray Alexander and 
others. The founding congress of FEDSAW passed the Women's Charter, preceding 
the Freedom Charter by one year.

Unfortunately, the ANC, which is a mass organisation (liberation movement), 
wants to treat the women as a "wing". This has been a problem from the 1950s 
onwards. The ANC Women's League, although it is national in extent, is not a 
women's organisation as such. Rather, it is an ANC for women. 

Worse, the ANCWL is jealous of other national women's formations, as it was 
with FEDSAW and later with the UDF and then the Women's National Coalition, all 
of which were destroyed. The present Progressive Women's Movement is no more 
than the ANCWL in another guise (whether by wearing a T-shirt or an evening 
dress).

The above argument is developed and backed up with documents, in the series "No 
Woman, No Revolution". Click here to access the whole set  on this very YCLSA 
Discussion Forum site,

Yours in struggle,
VC

2009/9/22  <[email protected]>



Salute Comrades,



I know there are many issues of interest to cadres at the moment, some of

those is the ongoing 10th Congress of Cosatu, SACP's discussion documents,

and so forth. But I had faced a challenge while I was addressing in one of

the forums. After we shared political discussion, one cadre asked a

question to me. He said why the SACP as an independent political party

does not have a Women's League. This question emanated when we had

explained structures of the ANC and emphasis of the primary objectives of

the National Democratic Revolution which are to construct a united society

which is non racial, non sexist, democratic and prosperious. The

understanding is that the ANCYL & WL were formed in order to allow full

attention to the critical challenges facing women and youth. At the same

time the SACP as a venguard of the working class and the poor does have a

YCL representing the youth who are communists in terms of ideology but it

doesn't have a women's structure.



I said to comrades, the SACP is not a broad church like the ANC hence its

focus is to build a socialist state enroute Communism. By so doing the

SACP build a revolutionary intelligentsia who is schooled the teachings of

socialism and communism, yet advocating for the victory of the NDR. In

pursuit of its objective, the SACP doesn't necessarily need to establish a

separate gender forums however believes that women had faced multiple

challenges and indeed suffered discrimination of both class and gender. In

pursuit of class struggle, the SACP would have addressed all challenges

facing the women. The formation of YCL is to sure case that communism is a

future and by teaching the youth, you save the nation.



The clarity I actually need from fellow cadres in this forum is really to

find out the political reason for the Party not to have in its structures

a Women's forum. And to check if the explanation I gave to my comrades was

informed or a true response of that question.





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