Comrades, If I may ask: "what is the mathematical formula to determine the commodified labour power".
Rgards Xoli Dlabantu On 12/17/09, Samuel Somcuba <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah Comrades it has been a great year after all, comrades your > participation through this forum really help me a lot in terms of > understanding the politics of MDM,Marxism-leninism, and so forth, VC you > have been a great teacher there way you introduced the topics of Marxism > was perfect you made it simple to understand, thanks a lot Commanders > of our struggle, > > scholars of Marxism, Great descendant of Frederic Angel, colleagues of > Lenin, family and friends' of communism, the guerrillas of Ernesto Che > Guevara, comrades of Joe Slovo, Radical and militant friends of Chris > Hani, the Students of OR Tambo, Masupatsila a Walter Sisulu, > > > > > > > > > > > > Samuel Somcuba > > > > > > 'the only things that stand between a person and what they want in life > are the will to try it, and faith to believe its possible" > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of morgan phaahla > Sent: 17 December 2009 10:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fake or real communists? > > > > Thank you VC, I must say you add some much value into this forum that is > impossible to calculate. I plead with you to be patient with us and > continue empowering the YCLSA discussion forum in the same fruitful > manner in 2010 and beyond. Long Live cde VC! > > > > I wish communist cadres could do likewise and read or study more in > order to fly our flag higher and stand without any shadow of a doubt > that they're complete, real, genuine and/or true communists in the midst > of mockers branding us rooi-gevaar, yellow communists, gucci socialists, > et al. > > I, too, have not been able to cope with Marxist-Leninist theories but > reading more and engaging more in this forum the Marxist-Leninist goal > of liberating the working class became clearer with times. In nutshell, > let's learn to stimulate real debates and cut down on shabby arguments > of engaging personalities. > > > > On the same note, best wishes and take care of yourself during the > festivities. Comrades, the struggle continues - abstain, be faithful and > condomise. Surely, we will meet again in 2010. Aluta Continua! > > > > Comradely > > Morgan Phaahla, > > Ekurhuleni > > > "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - > Joe Slovo > > --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fake or real communists? > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 1:36 AM > > > > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Communist-University> > > > > Fake or real communists? > > > > Yesterday on this forum I published the results of six months > of work, during which I composed from the political education resources > of the Communist University, eight "Generic Courses" (see below for the > links). Some of this work has been accepted for the SACP web site (here > <http://www.sacp.org.za/main.php?include=cuniversity/main.html> ). > > During this work, which was unavoidably to some extent a > totalisation, I often used to wonder what a "complete", "real", > "genuine" or "true" communist might be? > > I used to wonder if it is even possible to think in such terms > at all, yet I was compelled by the work to do so. > > It is in the nature of such a job that one must draw a line at > the end and say: That will have to do for now. But exactly where should > that line be drawn? > > Please allow me to unpack this a little with you, comrades. > > In the Generic Courses re-write, I had picked up and included a > project that I began a year or two before, namely to deal with Karl > Marx's Capital Volume 1 in parts, but thoroughly, and leaving out > nothing of significance. I do believe that I have done it in a > satisfactory way, and so made Capital Volume 1 potentially accessible to > many more people, perhaps to millions more people, than was the case > before. > > Could a person be called a communist who had not read and > understood Karl Marx's Capital, Volume 1? I read somewhere that Sidney > Bunting was never able to cope with Marx's Capital at all. Does this > mean that Sidney Bunting was not a communist? I don't think so. Sidney > Bunting was undoubtedly a communist, and a very great one at that. > > But what one knows is that it bothered Sidney Bunting that he > had not mastered Capital, and that it troubles any communist to know > that this great book exists, until he or she has read it and > internalised it. > > This famous book, Capital Volume 1, that is so often like a flag > or a banner or a standard for us, uniting us, yet it unintentionally > also divides us, into those who have knowledge of it, and those who do > not yet have that knowledge. > > So much for Capital, Volume 1. What about Volumes 2 and 3? Let > me confess that at this moment, they are beyond my grasp. > > It would be nice to say: Let me leave Volumes 2 & 3 to the > academics. But we know that the academy is full of anti-communists and > it hardly ever deals honestly with our material. Also, those of us who > read the newspapers must know that officials and representatives are > quoting from Capital Volume 3 in particular. Are they doing so > correctly? How will we know, unless we study it? > > In the end, I left links to Volumes 2 & 3, but I have not yet > processed them into study texts as I have done with the rest; and I have > made a note to come back to Capital Volumes 2 & 3, and to make a > ten-part course out of them, if possible in the next six months or so. > > Let me give one more example: In Lenin's notebook on philosophy, > "Conspectus of Hegel's book 'The Science of Logic'", dated 1914, he > (Lenin) wrote: "It is impossible completely to understand Marx's > Capital, and especially its first chapter, without having thoroughly > studied and understood the whole of Hegel's Logic. Consequently, half a > century later, none of the Marxists understood Marx!!" > > Have I, Domza the VC, "thoroughly studied and understood the > whole of Hegel's Logic"? No, I have not. I find Hegel's writing > difficult, like riddles. I do intend to study the "Logic", and the > "Philosophy of Right", and to make another ten-part "Generic Course" out > of these two, but I have not properly done so, yet. > > So, does that mean I am a "fake communist"? > > Is the VC a fake, because he struggles with Hegel? > > I think that we have to study, comrades. We have to be on that > road, and then we will get confidence from our sense of progress, > knowing that the mockers are on the sidelines, standing still. The road > of science has no end. The further we go down the road, the wider are > the horizons. > > Here are the opening links to the CU Generic Courses: > > > > INDEXES > > > > INTRODUCTIONS > > > > Basics > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/basics---i > ndex> > > > > > > - Introduction, Basic Course > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/basics---i > ntroduction> > > National Democratic Revolution > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/national-d > emocratic-revolution---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, NDR Course > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/national-d > emocratic-revolution---introduction> > > > > > > > > > > Development, Rural and Urban > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/developmen > t-rural-and-urban---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, Development Course > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/developmen > t-rural-and-urban---introduction> > > No Woman, No Revolution > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/no-woman-n > o-revolution---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, Women & Revolution > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/no-woman-n > o-revolution---introduction> > > > > > > > > > > Karl Marx's Capital, Volume 1 > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/karl-marxs > -capital-volume-1---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, Capital, Volume 1 > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/karl-marxs > -capital-volume-1---introduction> > > Lenin's The State and Revolution > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/lenins-the > -state-and-revolution---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, State and Revolution > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/lenins-the > -state-and-revolution---introduction> > > > > > > > > > > Anti-Imperialism, War and Peace > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/anti-imper > ialism-war-and-peace---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, International > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/anti-imper > ialism-war-and-peace---introduction> > > Philosophy and Religion > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/philosophy > -and-religion---index> > > > > > > - Introduction, Philosophy > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/philosophy > -and-religion---introduction> > > > > VC > > > > -- > You are subscribed. 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