Thobela! There is a person complaining that she is getting my e-mails and I'm sending this to YCLSA group>Can any one assist me before the lady fight me.
On 2/11/10, Makhoana, Martha (TWP Rustenburg) <[email protected]> wrote: > Please stop sending me this Emails because I don't know who you are. > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of howard matjomane > Sent: 11 February 2010 01:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [Communist University] Vanguard! > > > > Comrade, > > > Cde may you assist in this regards,When i first artend ANC meetings it > was in 1989 as we were young still in primary we grew up in meetings > were Comrades keeps on say point of order ,Exigency and all this advance > meeting procedures at some stages we couldnt s speak fearing that we may > be out of line and other comrades may laugh at us. > > > > .I then went teartiary and I was Active in SASCO and the same advance > meetings procedures at it highest levels What suprised me was that > before I went to tertiary I was member of the ANCYL and these never > happen you will see comrades writing agenda pre the meetings be it > general or Executive meetings with no problem. > > > > I went to jouin union and found the same meeting procedures. > > > > Recently at the meeting of the ANCYL and YCL some comrades use this > meeting procedures and I had a serious fight with them about the > imposition of this meeting procedures into our structures to a level > where upper structure intervene but unfortunately they were as well not > clear about this. > > > > What i want to find out is wether the ANCYL/ANC and YCL has meeting > procedures or any one from NGO's/Church or Trade union movements can > just imposed his procedures on us.Please assist in this regards. > > > > Kind Regards > > Howard > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, DomzaNet <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Error! Filename not specified. > <http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D4UK2kWf5ik/S3PP62R7_qI/AAAAAAAAB7g/fyFaaw9ZS > zs/s1600-h/Jetline-e.com+Logo+72DPI+RGB.jpg> > > > > > > Another first for the Communist University! > > > > Comrades, you can now go to https://www.jetline.co.za/ > <https://www.jetline.co.za/> , log in with username communistuniversity > and password also communistuniversity, fill in your details and choose a > Jetline branch, and then order from a list of all the materials used in > the eight Communist University Generic Courses. When you click "Proceed > to Check-out" at the bottom, it creates an order with an order number, > and sends it by e-mail to the Jetline branch you have selected. You go > to the branch with the order number to pay and to collect your Communist > University material! Viva, CU, Viva! > > > > ________________________________ > > > > We now meet in the UJ Doornfontein Library. Next week's session will be > as follows: > > > > Date: 17 February 2010 (Wednesday) > > Time: 17h00 sharp to 18h30 sharp > > (New) Venue: The Library, University of Johannesburg, 37 Nind Street, > Doornfontein, Johannesburg (former Technikon Witwatersrand). Vehicle > access is from the slip road to the left of the bridge on Siemert Road. > > Topic: "Worker Solidarity and Unions", by Brian Basgen and Andy Blunden > (downloadable in MS-Word format > <http://sadtu-media-releases.googlegroups.com/web/1106%2C+Worker+Solidar > ity+and+Unions%2C+MIA%3B+Meetings%2C+Hannington.doc?gda=ac7_lHsAAADO5_tB > HBXARP4AsX6lmYOoCWB07yPAs5XTPBKvv7XfVmqIYeWP4QVHu5dm91rjuvG8tEC0BPEnFlA6 > fT3p9guJY4azGvB-4QtnhowQyXEt2ho1ks4tjyO_q> ). See below for an > introduction to this text and to extracts from "Mr Chairman" by Wal > Hannington. > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Click to view the CU 2010 Draft Programme > <http://groups.google.com/group/sacp-johannesburg-central-branch/web/joh > annesburg-cu-2010-draft-programme> and the Jhb Central Branch 2010 > Schedule > <http://groups.google.com/group/sacp-johannesburg-central-branch/web/sac > p-jhb-central-2010-branch-schedule> . > > > > Click to view full linked list of downloadable Generic Course files, > with page count > <http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/cu-generic > -courses-full-list-of-downloadable-textstexts> . > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Vanguard! > > > > > In politics, the word "vanguard" means the professional force, human > framework or "cadre", which can lead the mass movement of the people on > a revolutionary path. > > > > The relationship of the revolutionary vanguard to the mass organisations > of the people is similar to the relationship of a doctor to the people, > or of accountants and lawyers to businesses, or of an architect or an > engineer to builders and their clients. The vanguard is made up of > professional revolutionaries. > > > > The revolutionary vanguard is a servant, and not a master. The vanguard > party of the working class serves the working class, and does not boss > it. > > > > The working-class vanguard party, which is the communist party, is not > separate from the mass movement. It is intimately involved with the mass > movement at all times and at all levels. To be a vanguard at all, it > must study the workings of the mass movement. > > > > The vanguard party educates, organises and mobilises. As a vanguard, it > must have expert knowledge how mass movements in general, and especially > about how the primary mass organisations of the working class which are > the trade unions, work. > > > > To deal with this crucial matter (how trade unions work) here is a text > from the Marxists Internet Archive's Encyclopaedia of Marxism, written > by Brian Basgen and Andy Blunden, two comrades who clearly have vast > experience of what they are writing about. > > > > This text is empirical and experiential and there is nothing wrong with > that, because experiential is exactly what trade unions and other mass > organisations are. Trade unions arise out of the existing consciousness > of workers as they are found under capitalism. In many ways workers > emulate capitalist forms of organisation. Their initial purpose is to > get a better money deal in exchange for their labour-power in the > capitalist labour-market. > > > > Trade unions are in the first place reformist, not revolutionary. Nor > can trade unions become revolutionary without the assistance of > professional revolutionaries, organised separately as a communist party. > Lenin dealt with this relationship in "What is to be Done?" (download > linked below). > > > > Trade unionists who think that they can dispense with the assistance of > a communist party are on a road to ruin. > > > > Rules of Debate > > > > Crucial to the democracy of mass organisations are the Rules of Debate > and Procedure of Meetings. These are a bit like language, or political > education <http://domza.blogspot.com/2009/07/learning-is-communism.html> > , or the Internet, in the sense of being communistic. They are not given > as authority. They are not imposed by a "state". There is no > institutional enforcer of these rules. > > > > For example, the South African Communist Party has no given Rules of > Debate or Standing Orders. Unfortunately this does not prevent people > from claiming "Points of Order"! The nature of the notional "rules" is > such that they are only effective to the extent that they are understood > in common by the members of any particular gathering. > > > > Wal Hannington [1896-1966, pictured] was well known as a communist > leader of the unemployed workers' movement in Britain in the 1930s. Our > summary of his 1950 booklet "Mr Chairman" is included with this item on > Trade Unions because communists involved in trade unions need this > knowledge. > > > > Hannington wrote: "The Chairman is there to guide the meeting, not to > boss it." This is the most valuable message in his book. The Rules of > Debate and the Procedures of Meetings are only justified to the extent > that they liberate the people present. They become useless when they are > felt as a burden or an obstruction. > > > > The point is not for the Chairperson to "keep order", or for individuals > to be bullied down with "points of order". The Chairperson serves the > meeting, and the meeting needs to know how to guide the Chairperson. > Everything works best when everyone knows the generic Rules of Debate. > > > > Downloads: > > > > Click here to download the text of Worker Solidarity and Unions, MIA, > Meetings, Hannington > <http://communist-university.googlegroups.com/web/1106%2C+Worker+Solidar > ity+and+Unions%2C+MIA%3B+Meetings%2C+Hannington.doc?gda=jh_Z84AAAABRWT0J > vHr826K2AV2Sy7ruWF_cvIR4bQcjY2Qjv0TmrWqIYeWP4QVHu5dm91rjuvG8tEC0BPEnFlA6 > fT3p9guJY4azGvB-4QtnhowQyXEt2ho1ks4tjyO_q> > > > > Further (optional) reading: > > > > 1106a, What is to be Done, Workers & Revolutionaries, Lenin > <http://communist-university.googlegroups.com/web/1106a%2C+What+is+to+be > +Done%2C+Workers+%26+Revolutionaries%2C+Lenin.doc?gda=W4PcrX4AAABRWT0JvH > r826K2AV2Sy7ruWF_cvIR4bQcjY2Qjv0TmrWil66lirPyUX6aCxEZVGHxoKCpHpCsh1YQmlR > Jkf_Tnl1pFkUJUuBBgHLP2xB_1F_tNrPf8SjuO1Qk> > > > > > > -- > Posted By DomzaNet to Communist University > <http://domza.blogspot.com/2010/02/vanguard.html> on 2/11/2010 11:50:00 > AM > > -- > You are subscribed. 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