Returned Soldier, I think some of us we fail or we just not ready to understand the issue of nationalization as we are pre occupied with the comrades we happen not to like. Floyd is not determining factor in nationalization of mines but the collective resolutions across the branches of the ANCYL resolved on the issue which you were part of. To brand it as some sort of bourgeoisie agenda in fact tell us that you doubt your resolutions you took on this matter. What you should tell us know is how the youth perspective on nationalization would not results in benefiting the few and really I don’t think you are the right person to comment on issue of BEE as you have all bourgeois characters and in most cases you behave as double faced creature, Whether you are a fish nor fowl we don’t know.
Your one sided poor assessment of nationalization and your insults labeled against Cde Peter quite clearly indicates that you have been brought up in bourgeois Kraal with one family thinking of careerisms and quick wealth. If there is any veteran you feel is not being taken care of why you don’t raise it in your structure instead of using it to advance your argument. You seem not to have been brought within the culture of the congress movement by admitting the fact that you tasted money to sell the revolution I’m not surprised about that. Maybe you should ask why Cde JS Moroka was toppled in 1952. Then you will have a clear understanding that you are not a child of the ANC you do not belong to this congress movement. You are lost Cde and to understand were you going maybe is better not to forget the past. "Wie zich een toekomst scheppen wil, mag het verleden niet uit het oog verliezen." Mara Cde Tshepo why do even go to an extend of undermining the leaders that went before us? Is’nt this really signs of ill discipline why can’t you just build the organization inside if you see any defects? You will be in better position of understanding the current period if perhaps you knew what exactly was the principles behind the formation of the ANCYL in 1944.You will understand that people like you are the main cause of division in the Congress movement. You will know that first wisdom of any member is to respect elected leadership .You will have a clear knowledge of the spirit and revolutionary culture inside the ANCYL. We hope this time around you will support us towards the provincial congress unless you are still being remote controlled by bunch of opportunist and elites comrades. Our Motto: Economic Freedom in Our Lifetime. Howard. On 2/12/10, tshepo digomo <[email protected]> wrote: > monna foloyd, this nationalization needs be a reality not a frontliner for > some bourgeuorisie agenda who knows what's gona be a profit to them should > the country mines be nationalized. we've seen how BEE came in and got > packaged to us as a nice program which was aimed in assisting and empowering > the poor peoples of our country but to our surprise only few tycoons and > their girlfriends have benefited some of them produced a red wine in the > name of BEE and where are they now/? "a re tlogeleng go patlamelana le > bogongwana". this is not what utata Mandela fought for. he {Madiba} stood > for unity unlike what we see in our politics today where a very senior > leader will occupy a public plartform and instead driving the agenda of the > Orgarnization tabulated in our manifesto , he/she insults our leadrship in > front of the voters. people do this because they're agents of this tycoons > who stands to benefit should nationalisation see the light, they're behaving > in > this manner because their masters want to lead this organization take > ownership of country's resources and will give their loud mouthed agents > some royalties. just on record if that is the case we all want to benefit > we can't allow a situation where when people want to lobby our support for > some narrow selfish agendas which doesn't includes the interst of the > organization use FREEDOM CHARTER but once they aquire u just hear that > they're builing rdp's all across our provinces without considering the > SHARING part in freedom charter. some of them uses this Lembede which for > some reason we thought the conference resolved it must be sold, liquidated > or whatever business term pule will tell. history taught us that mob > sychology is there and its pillars are only two GOSSIP and Rumour mongering. > it's a pity that people who claim to be good leaders they fall trap to this > thing and instead when hearing gossip and nrumours provide leadership by > consulting our > CONDUCT OF THE NEW CADRE, they become part of it and go all out to destroy > other leaders without wanting to engage on issues raised or seeking > neccessary interventions. that is a character of cope. Tata Tambo would want > to unite the movement at all costs not this yelling of insults which > embarasses our generation calling it an obsession of Peter Mokaba legacy, > that is misrepresentation cause cde Peter spent much of his time insulting > the name which was apartheid forces it's a pity he never had a chance to > deploy anyone to become HOD in any goverment for his selfish business > interests. so is Kalushi Solomon Mahlangu we forget about this people but we > mostly mention them when we campaign positions. i hope that oneday somebody > would want instead of just misusing our AIRTIME go to the place called Ga > Botha in Mutse to see how's in veteran Eprhaigm Mogale home you'll shocked. > but mostly we say viva ephraighm mogale viva! that's now when we lobby we > need to > mislead cdes that we'll revive the revolutionary spirit of cde eph whereas > we just want to nationalize this mines so some tycoons benefit then few of > us we get some royalties. we know how was a build up to Polokwane CDES one > tycoon bought lot of cars and lot of money was running around the car boots > we speak of millions ive tasted part of it myself cause i was very poor then > i could not say no to money in bag. that tycoon needs be stopped he seems > still interested in the throne and he going to fail.....may i be suspended > otherwise i wanna go to cuba... > > --- On Thu, 11/2/10, Castro Ngobese <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Castro Ngobese <[email protected]> > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Oliver Tambo and the masses freed Nelson > Mandela! > To: "yclsa-eom-forum" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 18:36 > > > > Oliver Tambo and the masses freed Nelson Mandela! > > As the country marks the 20th anniversary of Nelson Mandela’s release from > the gallows of apartheid jails, we should pay an emphatic homage to Oliver > Tambo for his sterling role and contribution in rallying the masses and the > international community against the heinous and brutal system of apartheid > using Mandela’s as a pictogram of the struggle of the oppressed people of > South Africa. > > Tambo was a revolutionary who spoke of yesterday and today – one of those > giant trees whose roots take hold and grow more and more as our nascent > democracy goes by. Tambo takes hold and grows unstoppably – not underneath, > but over our struggle for a better life for all – and he will grow every > year and every day in the minds of our people, our leaders and his > organization the ANC, for his revolutionary efforts so that we could be > free. > We see him grow in the parades of our masses for which he loved dearly, the > recitals, popular songs and slogans, and solemn tributes at his monuments. > The connections are tangible between the ideas and actions of Tambo – the > revolutionary who fomented the people’s war and the ideas and actions of the > men and women who triggered the democratic breakthrough of 1994 which > ushered the ANC to the corridors of power and influence. They are all the > thesis and synthesis of the fact that when required by the situation, the > people organize and create the revolutionary vanguard to carry out their > historic tasks. > Tambo’s concept of the need for the ANC to organize, fight, attack and lead > the revolutionary struggle serves as an inspiration for our ANC-led Alliance > to lead the Revolution and the building of a just and an equal society in > our country: the homeland of the man who thought and acted as a visionary, > the man whose ideas fertilized those of the generations who followed, the > man who was not a lone voice crying out in the wilderness, but the ideas and > actions that encountered multitudes. > There are three conceptual cores that intertwine the National Liberation > Movement as led by the ANC and the vanguard party – the SACP: the revolution > as a process that is guided and organized; the indispensable participation > of the masses in that process, and the threat posed by imperialism and > global capitalism to the future of the peoples of our country and the world. > Tambo’s love for his country, his struggle for its freedom, his ideas and > actions, and his infinite example are an enduring inspiration without any > foreseeable end; he is and will be a revolutionary for all time. > *Castro Ngobese, National Union of Metalworkers of South Africa, National > Spokesperson, ANC and SACP Member > > > > -- > You are subscribed. 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