Chief Bazuka,

You have concured a point which I was to giraffe. Julius was wrong to visit
jub jub as that sent a wrong message to hordes of people.

I am not trying to lambast him but I am constructively criticising him on
the mistake that he made. One thing that we as cadres must understand is
that we should learn to contradict and compliment.

This means that we must compliment one's good deed and contradict one's
wrong doing so that we tally forces. We cannot be yes men and women all the
time!

The ANC is a collective and not an individual or tuck shop!

Julius will leave the ANC and the ANC will still live as it has lived for
years!

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, bongani makhubu
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Sure Comrades
>
> Julius Malema is a president of ANC-YL, where ever and when ever he
> addresses on public platform I want to believe that he addresses challenges
> that engulf our previously marginalized society (youth) which is the poor
> and the working class. Key to the contention I want to affirm is that,
> challenges in our society where issue of alcohol abuse, drugs, crime and yes
> reckless driving under the certain influence is but one of the core
> predicament as members of ANC-YL  must strongly condemn when ever they
> manifests themselves.  The issue of Jub Jub is one of many senseless
> incidences occurring daily in our particularly Township.
>
> Now, one does not expect Julius as vocal as he is on many issue to be
> silence around this matter, moreover since he went to visit Jub Jub. As
> revolutionary as we expect him to be on matter pertaining the poor and the
> working class youth HE WAS OBLIGED TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER since he has
> already involved himself. His silence is very loud to the poor family that
> has lost their children and on the basis that his visit was not extended to
> victimized family sends a wrong signal that only the famous and financially
> stable individuals will be given an attention at the expense of the
> poor. The verdict  in the court of Law will subsequently follow but what is
> of paramount importance is that 4 lives of school children have been lost
> (that is a fact) and what is our ANC YL president saying about that?
>
> We can’t defend a wrong doing, Julius was wrong period.
>
>
>
> Bongani (Bazuka)
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM, sipho shandu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Comrade,
>>
>> I must however correct you and ask you to take a look at what you have
>> just written when replying to my post. I ask that you pause for a moment or
>> two and ask yourself whether racing on public roads and killing four kids is
>> right or wrong?
>>
>> If comrade, you have arrived at your answer and it is right then comrade I
>> believe that it is either you were with malema and crew on their visit to
>> jub jub or you dont have love for children which is very sad on your case!
>>
>> Chief, if I may try to bring back your senses on this particular issue at
>> hand, Chief cadre malema and crew were wrong as not visit the victims who
>> were affected by the wrong doing of jub jub and his co-drug addicts.
>>
>> I believe that malema visiting jub jub sent a horrific message to the our
>> constituencies in saying that we as the ANCYL support jub jub and that is
>> wrong!
>>
>> Well I do not know why you replied in the manner that you replied in, or
>> maybe you are a jub jub fan but I feel that you are a jub jub enthusiast in
>> the wrong place!
>>
>> The issue here was that our YL collective went to the wrong person to
>> offer sympathy. We should not give sympathy to hooligans and road maniacs!
>> and yes in the eyes of the masses jub jub is a criminal chief!!!
>>
>> In issues of this nature we have to maintain our stance as the YL to say
>> that let the law take its course and not interfere by taking sides because
>> this is what the YL has done in this case!
>>
>> What are the families to say?! Should they say the movement has neglected
>> them?
>>
>> Chief awucabange lento oyiphendulayo!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> General Shonalanga.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Lwazi Nkolonzi <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Chief
>>>
>>> I find your thinking illogical and quite bizarre chief, first and
>>> foremost you should know by now that a person is pressumed innocent
>>> until proven guilty and this should apply to jub jub as well, and
>>> therefore you cant label him as criminal as if he was convicted by a
>>> court of law, the case is on-going, maybe you should consult the
>>> constitution for clarity.
>>>
>>> Secondly I doubt very much you know on what capacity the president of
>>> the youth league visited the accused, and anyway the ANCYL has
>>> correctly stated the the law must take its course in the case, so
>>> therefore to pressume that the YL is supporting jub jub is blantaly
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> Thirdly I sense that you are playing a divide and rule tactic with the
>>> members of the youth league chief on comrade Malema.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 23, 10:13 am, Chief Perino <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Comrades,
>>> >
>>> > I must however convey my dismay at the behaviour portrayed by some of
>>> > our fellow comrades in the ANCYL collective in supporting its
>>> > president.
>>> >
>>> > We cannot have a president visiting a criminal and eating nandos
>>> > without paying attention to the victims. It is not so long ago the
>>> > president of the ANCYL lambasted the queen of bling (khanyi mbau) on
>>> > attending a criminal's trial.
>>> > Now Julius himself has gone to visit Jub Jub and shared nandos with
>>> > him in jail. The malema crew has disgraced the ANCYL at large by
>>> > showing support for this child murderer and has seriously snubbed the
>>> > victims.
>>> >
>>> > I don't remember anywhere within the ANC or Alliance where it was said
>>> > that we are to sympathise with those who commit crime and those who
>>> > abuse drugs and kill innocent children.
>>> >
>>> > If the youth league president feels that for some reason he wants to
>>> > be a criminal sympathiser he should rethink his carreer decision
>>> > because as the ANCYL and ANC we dont negotiate or sympathise with
>>> > criminals.
>>> >
>>> > The ANC has no place for Jub Jub and anyone else who engages in
>>> > criminal activities!!! Period!!!
>>> >
>>> > I believe that our presidential sheep has lost his way and it is high
>>> > time as cadres, that we remind malema of his responsibility as the
>>> > president of the youth league.
>>> >
>>> > He seems to do the opposite of what is required of him as the
>>> > president of the ANCYL and that sometimes does not go down well with
>>> > the majority of membership.
>>> >
>>> > Let us stop defending malema and start reprimanding him when he goes
>>> > off track so that he may see right from wrong. Should the leadership
>>> > of the ANC and ANCYL continue backing malema, the organisation will
>>> > suffer...
>>> >
>>> > AMANDLA!!!!
>>>
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