Are cdes referring to cde Sipho Mokake or cde Sipho Shandu? Cdes I think it is enough though with cde Juju as whether people can choose to dispute it or not but for him to be the president it is because of us the Leftists hence the intervention by GM in the second leg as to what happened after that which has led to permanent hatred by some of our leaders it remains a mistery and I think account must be given ukuthi why should we denounce him now wherein he is whatever he is because some of us heave deserted him and he got snatched by the other contra-class when he is our product so we are not clean. I think there are many developments in the YCL and in the country which we should be engaging on such as 1) This is a moral regeneration month and as in whose terms do we measure the morality of our society? maybe that is a debate cde Domza can give shape and we engage
--- On Thu, 7/22/10, sithembele senti <[email protected]> wrote: From: sithembele senti <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Dominic's obsession To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 2:58 PM First and foremost, communists are not highly ignorant of information like you are, even when is readily available infront of them. Secondly and forerest Dominic is not the only one posting issues in this forum. The particular posts that relates to the ANCYL and invariably its troubled President most if not all were not posted by Dominic rather by us, the participants of the forum. In Conclusion we do agree with you that you suffer from what you call Dominic's Obsession, in that you keep seeing him even when he is not there, what an Obsession. > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:21:20 +0200 > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Dominic's obsession > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Cde. Sipho, > > While calling order on the two comrades for hrling what you see as insults > in the young reds forum, I will also like you to reprimand Dominic on his > obsession on the President of the ANC YL. He has become a media extensin > in his forum, where the debates have waned, but the anti-Julius newspaper > articles are the order of the day.I raised this at some stage and was even > sent mails aside by some of his minions, to teh level of telling me that I > must recuse myslf from the forum. I am expecting that to happen again this > time as well. > > I do not know why is this man so obsessed with what is happening in the > ANC YL, or with what the President of that organisation is doing. This > forum has become an Anti-Malema with the Stalinist features that have > become a feature of the left in South Africa now, and I do not think it is > here to groom the aspiring communists. I am afarid to say it, we have lost > it, and someone who thinks that he is some kind of demi-god of this forum > and Marxism has led this forum into that. It is a gbad day inpolitics when > alliance partners are out to kill each other like dogs and I am not > surprised with the kind of politics we are displaying since 2005 towards > Polokwane and even today. It is not eeen surpring that the PYA will even > mobilise in this forum to enter into the affairs of the youth keague in > regard with the former Chaiirperson in Limpopo. If and when memebrs o fteh > youth league feel that the NEC is loosing it, one will expect them to go > through brances and raise the matters there, even if they are YCL members > and Dominic followers and newspaper articles in the forum, but because > they have been offered a platform to spew bile against the leadership of > the YL, they will make use of it. My understanding of creal communists i > sthat of thise who will seek to analyse things properly and create further > divisions as it is the case her in our country, with those who claim to be > communists. > > > > > > Heita Maqabane!!! Dear comrade Nqaba and Sipho. > > Indeed, i find it little bit difficult, as to > > understand a behaviour displayed by cde Nqaba and cde Sipho here in this > > forum today. I see no need, as > > for why comrade Nqaba should have been attacked and insulted both > > personally and politically by comrade Sipho? I believe if comrade Sipho > > noted the differance between the two he should have just spell them out > > instead of lumbersting Nqaba boy like he did. > > My take on the matter, both comrade Nqaba and > > Sipho, you were out of order! You call yourself to order next time, > > because we can't stand you making our forum a battle field. One taking > > that he is better than the other but at the same time taking into account > > an out of context posed question rather than the matter at hand. > > Comrade Sipho wrote, ''I believe that Nqaba is what we > > call a howler or a political hooligan! You > > can't compare malema and cde zuma.'' that's the Kind of attacks i'm > > refering to Do pardon me my > > fellow young-red but i do believe such kind of a tendency need to be > > condemn, strongly so. If comrades want to practice a vulgar tendency, I > > proposed they do it somewhere far, as far, so far we'll be less interested > > to know where they are. Right in the bushes, as for them to be advised by > > either monkeys or whatever in there. > > I remain in defence of Marxist-Leninist Ideology. > > Cde Zwistah > > Platinum Province-NW ''At > > risk of sounding ridiculous, let me say that the TRUE revolutionary is > > guide by feeling of love'' Ernesto 'Che' Guevara. > > > > * Original msg. * > > From: > > [email protected] > > Sent: > > 11:26:49 > > 2010.Jul.20 > > To: > > [email protected] > > Subject: > > Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema defied Mantashe to axe rival > > > > Simphiwe, there is never a right context for such a stupid and > > disrespectful > > question in this forum of disciplined cadres. Nqaba is a disrespectful > > individual who was not taught manners at his early years. > > > > I believe that this nqaba boy should not comment anymore on any > > discussions > > raised within this forum but must take notes on how various comrades > > comment > > during discussions. He must then with those notes study the fundamentals > > of > > dialogue. > > > > I believe that Nqaba is what we call a howler or a political hooligan! You > > can't compare malema and cde zuma. > > > > How can one do that? If ones medula is full of dustbins and empty cans let > > them not open it up and show it to us! > > > > This is a forum of idealists and revolutionaries and not people who watch > > cartoon network all day and when they feel bored they come to this forum > > to > > paste utter rubbished comments! > > > > HHHayi Maqabane HHhayi! > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Simphiwe Ntozakhe > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Tell him Cde Sipho. > >> > >> The answer of Cde Palma is a political genocide or I should say you > >> give > >> Cde Nqaba a wrong answer.Why? Because he poses his question at a wrong > >> context.Zuma is not a capitalists where Malema is a capitalists and > >> power > >> misuser. > >> > >> CDA-Director:Sports,Arts and Culture > >> SASCO-Political Education Officer > >> E-SRC,Edgewood Campus:Chief-Whip > >> UKZN,Edgewood campus > >> Oakwood 13(tunnel) > >> Private Bag X 03 > >> Ashley > >> 3605 > >> 031 260 3605 > >> 071 091 5061 > >> "You show me a capitalist,I'll show you a bloodsucker" Malcolm X > >> > >> >>> sipho shandu <[email protected]> 7/20/2010 12:39 PM >>> > >> > >> Nqaba, > >> > >> There you go again showing all us within this forum the political > >> bankruptcy you truly possess. The fact that you raised that question > >> means > >> that you already had a negative answer. > >> > >> Nqaba your question is unethical and displays your lack of elder respect > >> in > >> every way! I will send Dominic a request for grooming people of your > >> calibre > >> as there is still a lot you need to know in terms of political > >> engagements. > >> > >> I would personally request that I take you on into one of my classes but > >> im > >> too busy! > >> > >> I remain a soldier! > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:14 PM, palma APG <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, Zuma is elected, Malema isn't- > >>> > >>> Nqaba Bhanga wrote: > >>> > >>> Is the any difference between Zuma and Malema > >>> > >>> Disclaimer > >>> > >>> Before acting on the contents of this e-mail, the recipient should > >>> verify that the originator has the appropriate authority and any person > >>> neglecting to obtain such verification will be acting entirely at > >>> his/her own risk. > >>> > >>> Please further note that any confidential, private or privileged > >>> information contained in the message is subject to legal privilege. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You are subscribed. 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