Dear Cdes,

Cde Thobela suggested in his closing that "i may be wrong" and suggested
to be corrected.  Cde Thobela you are wrong. i suggest you check SACP
Medium Term Vision, and surely will help you for direct answers on the
contemporary politics. For future learn, learn and learn more my leader.

>>> Benjamin Seitlhamo <[email protected]> 08/23/10
12:39 PM >>>
I fully support that motion!!!!!!!

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dominic Tweedie
Sent: 23 August 2010 12:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU at SACP's throat?


I think that Mr Mahijana had better withdraw that accusation very
quickly and give us a full and unreserved apology.



On 23 August 2010 12:34, Benjamin Seitlhamo
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Dear Dominic,

Is Mr. Thobela Mahijana suggesting that, the SACP cadres joined
government not to serve the people of our country, but with the main aim
of swelling the party's coffers??? Please correct me if Im wrong...

From:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
On Behalf Of Dominic Tweedie
Sent: 23 August 2010 12:22 PM
To:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU at SACP's throat?

"we took a resolution that our Provincial Secretaries together with the
SG must take public offices since the Party is under financial
constraints"

Really?

When? Where?

Are you sure you are not dreaming?


VC



On 23 August 2010 12:07, Thobela Mahijana
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ei I once raised this issue once in my reply to the cde who was asking ,
when socialism or communism
will come. It is no secret in the Party that our SG since joined the
public office his critics on the ANC
are well spoken and selective of events as if there's something he
doesnt want to disturb and we usually
fall short as a Party to condone such acts within , I think its high
time we sat our house in order.
This rot is all over our Provinces, I know we took a resolution that our
Provincial Secretaries together with the SG
must take public offices since the Party is under financial constraints,
but never said they should serve
the interest of the master above that of our masses.

I could be out of order cdes but I stand corrected

Thobela Mahijana
Amahlathi
Eastern Cape
083 378 7230
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Dominic.Tweedie
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


[cid:[email protected]]


Unions turn on SACP


Moshoeshoe Monare, Sibusiso Ngalwa and Gcwalisile Khanyile, Sunday
Independent, 22 August 2010

Labour federation Cosatu and the South African Communist Party - the
one-time left-wing allies of President Jacob Zuma - are at each others'
throats, with labour leaders accusing communists of failing to support
the crippling public sector wage strike.

Zuma on Saturday expressed anger at the strike, largely driven by
Cosatu-affiliated unions, and went to the extent of accusing striking
union members of opposing his government the same way they opposed
apartheid.

Separate statements from leaders of the tripartite alliance showed
increasingly strained relations - a far cry from the Polokwane united
front of Zuma, South African Communist Party leader Blade Nzimande, and
Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi.

Vavi has increasingly become critical of the Zuma administration, while
Nzimande has toned down anti-government rhetoric since he assumed a
position in Zuma's cabinet.

In a statement that cast a spotlight on Nzimande's apparently
conflicting roles as SACP leader and Higher Education minister, Cosatu
said it was extremely unhappy that communist leaders were pre-occupied
with their positions in government and failed to do the work of the
party. But the SACP shot back, saying the unionists were whining like
"hungry babies".

Zuma, on the other hand, told a gathering in KwaZulu-Natal on Saturday
that the disruption of essential services by workers was "foreign" to
the culture of the ANC and the alliance.

"Even during the dark days of (the) liberation (struggle), this never
happened. When people were striking, they would still allow a nurse or a
doctor to go inside the hospital. They knew how critical it was to save
lives and you should bear this in mind," Zuma said.

"You should struggle in a way that also values people's lives so that in
future when you embark on a strike, you will still get the same support.
Your actions should not bring pain to other people's lives.

"This will taint our history and legacy when you have women giving birth
on the street. We cannot afford to deviate from the good values the
liberation struggle taught us."

The government won an interdict against violent striking workers on
Saturday. Cosatu said it regrets the disruption of services, but it was
fully behind the continued strike.

The president of the union federation S'dumo Dlamini on Saturday said
Cosatu did not condone acts of violence by the strikers, but the
striking public servants were being provoked by management and police
officers.

"It is a wake up call to government, that they should stop fuelling the
situation by the statements they are making, and instead come up with a
revised offer," Dlamini said.

In an earlier interview Dlamini said there was a need for SACP leaders
"to dedicate more time to party work, not moonlighting".

All SACP senior leaders have full-time jobs either in government or in
the ANC, and this was endorsed by the communist party's special congress
last year.

Nzimande's deputy, Jeremy Cronin, is deputy transport minister; party
chairman Gwede Mantashe is ANC secretary-general; his deputy Joyce
Moloi-Moropa is an ANC MP; and SACP treasurer Pumulo Masaulle is ANC
Eastern Cape chairman and an MEC.

Dlamini said there were also concerns that the SACP had been quiet on
issues affecting workers and the working class - especially the strike -
since its senior leadership joined government.

"I have only seen one statement from the (SACP) on the public sector
strike," he said.

But SACP spokesman Malesela Maleka said this was not true. "We issued
several statements. Do they want us to issue statements every day?" he
asked.

National Union of Mine Workers secretary general Frans Baleni said they
were concerned about the SACP's lack of "capacity and its inability to
articulate and mobilise".

Nehawu general secretary Fikile Majola said they were worried by
Nzimande and Cronin's diminished roles in the party. "The SACP is not
coming out as strongly in the public as it did in the past," said
Majola.

It is not the first time that Cosatu has raised its concerns about the
SACP's toned-down attitude.

The labour federation raised this in one of its documents earlier this
year, citing Zuma's State of the Nation address - which was fiercely
criticised by Cosatu - as an example that the SACP had changed its tune.

However, Maleka said it was "inaccurate" for Cosatu to say the SACP did
not react to Zuma's speech. "Is it because they didn't like our
reaction?" he said.

"The decision (to send SACP leaders to government) was a collective
decision... If the constitutional structures of the SACP need to be
reviewed, we will continue to do so... But people cannot whine like
hungry babies," he said on Saturday.

Cosatu and the SACP have always been on the same side during alliance
tensions, before and after the watershed ANC conference in Polokwane,
which propelled Zuma to the helm of the ruling party.

The two have always projected a united front against the so-called
nationalists in the ANC who are perceived to be anti-leftist.

The Sunday Independent understands that the root-cause of Cosatu's
disenchantment was triggered by their unhappiness about the SACP's
positions on policy issues in the alliance.

These include the contentious issue of the centre of power in the
alliance.

Cosatu wants to push the ANC to accept that the alliance - and not the
ruling party - is the centre of influence on policy and on decisions
about key government appointments, while the SACP is luke warm about
this.

From:
http://www.iol.co.za/?art_id=vn20100822110039967C434448&singlepage=1


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