Comrades I am really surprised the way we tend to focus on issues that brings no change to our current social situation, especially to thousands of young people who does not have opportunities to partake on such discussion forums. Comrades I am subjected to corrections if I am really out of order, but my understanding was that this gives us a space and deliberate on issues that affects our communities not that affects certain individuals. Currently there are complains about the newly appointed NYDA leadership; and for me such issues should debated bcoz, structures are like NYDA are there to come with interventions that addresses the complexities on young people's needs, but not comrades choose to debate on individuals who were initially mandated by the very same voiceless young lions who live in rural areas, unemployed, cannot access tertiary institutions, etc. Please do not get me wrong here, with due respect to the my President Comrade Juju, I see no reason why people should waste resources and time to discuss him, rather than discussing issues that really affects the majority group in our population - Youth and community development.
As one comrade correctly said it, "this forum is an educational tool" to most us, but not a machine to attack individuals. I hope we will put a closure to the Malema issue, there are more imperative issues that we should to focus on. Concerned Cde Mandla HK Mndebele In Israel-Palestine, AMANDLA!!! On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>wrote: > > James Tweedie is my son. He is not my League. He is autonomous. > > Cde Moses you are filling up space for no reason. You have created "camps" > in your mind so that you can call people "anti-Malema". By the same logic, > you must then be "pro-Malema". But you have never said why you are > pro-Malema. > > It may be true that the problem is not Malema or the ANCYL, but then it > must be true that the problem is you, and wider than you, including Bishop > Tutu, Helen Zille and others like you liberals who think that liberation and > communism are two separate things and that you can have something called > "economic liberation" without communism. > > The problem is that you are a liberal, just as Julius Malema is a liberal, > and the ANCYL is currently dominated by liberals. Perhaps you think that > because Julius and Floyd are rude, therefore they are not liberals? > Actually, liberals are rude nearly all the time. > > James's mistake is not that he opposes liberals, but that he thinks he can > do so by being more rude to the liberals than they are. In a contest of > rudeness, the liberals can win. We communists must actually not allow rude > liberals like Julius Malema to reduce our politics to vulgarity. > > As somebody who has been attending our Johannesburg Central Branch, Cde > Moses, do you embrace the term "yellow communist"? Is that how you want to > carry on politics? Is that how you see yourself? > > No, we must study. If you can find political proof, from the press or > anywhere else, to show that Julius Malema, Floyd Shivambu, and the other > sectarians who are currently in the ascendancy in the ANCYL are not > political liberals, then please post it here. > > Passive-aggressive victim-cries of being persecuted by "anti-Malemas" do > not impress. They waste our time. > > > VC > > > > > On 19 October 2010 05:55, Moses Ka Moyo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cdes >> >> VC is anti-malema ,He only post negative headlines about the youth league >> and its president. Factionalism at its best.... >> >> This is supposed to be a political education discussion forum, not a VC >> Amen Corner. >> >> Cde Phemelo -i will not unsubcribe - also no one asked about Domnic >> good/bad standing in the ANC, if you know he is up to date keep it to >> yourself ,the point was about the VC giving prominence to Cde Malema >> Bashers >> . >> >> Cde Thembinkosi i am indeed freely and correctly INTERACTING and Engaging >> with fellow Cdes and i strongly disagree with the use of this Forum as a >> Anti Malema Site >> >> Below is one of the Tweedie postings over the Week-end : >> >> WANTED!BEE or Nationalised Julius 'Juju' Malema Alias The Chivas Kid Alias >> The Tenderfoot Tenderpreneur REWARD R50,000Be Warned!Malema lacks anger >> management or political education, and is known to bear offensive >> language!By order of the Sheriff of Sandton City >> >> >> >> Asikhulume >> >> Moses >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mnguni, Thembinkosi <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > This message (and attachments) is subject to restrictions and a >> > disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.unisa.ac.za/disclaimer for full >> > details. >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > I wonder if the entire forum ought to respond to Cde Moyo, but my view >> is >> > that there is no onslaught towards President of Youth League or what >> might >> > triggered your perception(Cde Moyo). It must be remembered that this >> issue >> > has been pending for a very longtime now it reaches its logical >> conclusion >> > and Cdes should have such information, if media decide to distort it, it >> is >> > the responsibility of this forum to put a perspective on the article. >> > >> > We have seen many articles that were damning to our organization that VC >> > posted and Cdes were able to contextualize and engage them so as this >> one. >> > >> > There is no one in this forum who has supported either authors of the >> > article nor Sonke Gender Justice, so you have misdirected your missiles >> Cde >> > Moyo, and apology will not make you less Cde but will in a way make you >> grow >> > and be able to interact freely and correctly with your fellow Cdes. >> > >> > >> > >> > Aluta…. >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *[email protected] >> > *Sent:* 18 October 2010 02:57 PM >> > >> > *To:* [email protected] >> > *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema files equality court appeal >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > For your information Mr Moyo, this forum update us on the current >> issue(s) >> > in the media including the one's that >> > aimed at discrediting our leaders. VC is not against Malema or any other >> > leader of the ANC. He is a paid up member >> > of the ANC branch. If you're not interested in the issues presented on >> this >> > forum, please do yourself a favour and >> > unscribe. >> > >> > >> > *Moses Ka Moyo <[email protected]>* >> > Sent by: [email protected] >> > >> > 2010/10/18 01:36 PM >> > Please respond to yclsa-eom-forum >> > >> > >> > To: [email protected] >> > cc: >> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema files equality >> court >> > appeal >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > His views that are Anti-Malema and ANCYL ???Selective in what ??This >> > tendency must cease ,why do we peddle media lies if it suits our agenda >> ?? >> > >> > The media in South Africa is Biased and anyone that peddles their >> > halftruths is equally guilty . >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Thembinkosi Josopu < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > Which one comrade?...because VC as usual shares news with us in this >> forum, >> > why are you selective? >> > >> > >> > *Thembinkosi Josopu* >> > *Student Admissions & Advocacy Services* >> > *University of Cape Town* >> > *Level 3, Kramer Law building* >> > *Middle Campus* >> > *Rondebosch,7700* >> > *Tel :021-650-2429* >> > *Fax:021-650-4014* >> > >> > >> > *"A great leader's courage to fulfill his vision comes from passion, not >> > position"* >> > >>> Moses Ka Moyo <[email protected]> 2010/10/18 01:23 PM >>> >> > >> > >> > When Will the Persecution of Cde Malema in this YCL forum stop ?????? >> > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Dominic.Tweedie < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > [image: The Times] >> > >> > * >> > Malema files equality court appeal* >> > >> > >> > *Sapa, The Times, Johannesburg, 18 October 2010* >> > >> > ANC Youth League president Julius Malema has begun the process of >> appealing >> > an Equality Court order against him, contrary to allegations by the >> Sonke >> > Gender Justice Network that he has ignored it, his lawyer says. >> > >> > "We are busy with the appeal process," said Tumi Mokwena, who defended >> him >> > at the Johannesburg hearing which centred on Malema's comments about a >> woman >> > who had laid a charge of rape against President Jacob Zuma. >> > >> > Zuma was acquitted of the charge, but the >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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