I think it is not correct for SASCO to blame other PYA structures for its failures. The problem with SASCO is it deployeement policy, which gives more power to upper structures than branches. For example, what we saw in KZN was a revolt of members of SASCO against the provincial leadership which wanted to impose its friends to the SRC’s for their own personal interest. This friends are being deployed so that they are going to unleash SRC resources to this upper structures, whenever they are instructed to do so. Even in UNISA we experience the same thing last year when the NEC of SASCO imposed the National SRC and we were threaten by expulsion if we revolt. Members of SASCO are being sidelined based on friendship and with the look of things more campuses are going to experience the same thing, if dictators of SASCO don’t change their minds. We can’t be reduced to discipline while cdes are abusing democratic centralism and confusing it with Stalinism and if we revolt we are told we are bitter and ill discipline. In fact cde Tom your are very correct we can’t have leaders of SASCO who are students for ever, they must graduate and leave. Some of them they’ve been members of SASCO for a decade and they are still doing undergraduate even worse first year modules, hence they have been changing courses for ever to remain in SASCO, surprisingly some of them are NEC members. I think we must start electing leadership of SASCO based on academic Excellency as it is one of our principles. I’m saying this because SASCO is not like ANCYL OR YCL, where everyone can be a member, SASCO is for students only and their responsibility is to study and pass. Therefore we can’t have leadership which don’t lead by example.
Cde Sabelo Mhlungu
SASCO member



































Quoting "sive gumenge" <[email protected]>:

Greetings,

I think it the role of the YCLSA in KZN or Nationally to judge itself and
look deeply to find the things SASCO is refering to. In its (SASCO) pursuit
to fight corruption yes in SRC's and higher education at large, it can't be
correct to  say that *"it is even more shocking that Tenderpreneurs have
found themselves space in the Young Communist League. It is shocking that
these businessmen are able to lead in Provincial leadership structures of
the YCL without the slightest signs of shame", *because these statements
might create an impression out there from a layman's eyes that YCLSA or its
leadership is soon to misrepresent us (working class). I think the YCLSA has
enough capacity to identify its challanges and resolve on them very well.
SASCO surely will not appreciate it if the YCLSA would identify certain
things about SASCO that might have capacity to deal with its credibility
from an ordinary man on the street.

I agree tendeprenuers do not have space in the communist party and its youth
wing, but that should be said by the YCLSA not any other person.


Away with capitalism Away!!!!

Madala
Brian Bunting District
Western Cape
0768945800

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Andile Mafa <[email protected]> wrote:

To say the ANCYL represent tenderpreneurship would be a big, huge misguided
insight and it needs to be corrected. to comment on what i have read
above... I am quite happy that the false unity is realy falling apart and
everybodies self-interest is going to be seen on the table. Genericly in the
MDM we are dealing with serioius and diligent political accumulators,
actualy this seems to be the way most youth is going and aspires towards.
denying this would again make us blind people.

The ANCYL and YCL constasting SRC elections is within their right as they
have an agenda like all organisation of their nature... yet the PYA
relations that have been compromised or/and destroyed in this process will
prove costly over a long period of time. Lazola this needs serious
consideration rather than the territorial defence that i think you are
taking Nobhala... if SASCO is feeling like its relevence is being
questioned, SASCO must prove itself to be a clear motive force of this
country which has absentia of revolution with so many fakers calling
themselve revolutioneries.... the MDM structures are not revolutionery
currently, they all have their own self-interest expressed thru thier
leadership... so lets not discuss the effect of what might happen... lets
look at the matter that is at the root that as MDM structure we have nothing
common anymore... let constest each other.

w...@h!... I long for the DAY THE SACP WILL CONTEST THE ANC... what a day
that would be... maybe than we might have a revolution.

  On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Motshegwa Mushi <
[email protected]> wrote:

cdes, name calling and playing 'been there done that' will not promote
unity iether. we need to define principles that would bind the student
community and the youth in general in persuit of the better life for all. is
it still worth it cdes to contest bitterly and coldly the gvt tenders to
deliver substandard services, or should we be taking a stand that gvt must
take responsibility of its mandate and deliver directly on actual
delivarables? should tenders not be limited to materials, expertise,
touchables that facilitate actual work being the product to the people? it
does not make sense in an economy that is heavily dependent on the strength
of the dollar that gvt must pay more than is necessary by creating wealth
for the tenderpreneurs while the masses that need the money, services and
improvement of their existance and the jobs remain spectators in the
development of their dismay. eg. for houses, let the gvt provide the
manpower (EPWP)per sector[ ward or region] and tender for the supply of
cement, bricks, frames, etc; which are bought through the normal gvt
procurement processes- this should limit the wasteful and fruitless
expenditure on fronted companies, buy-to-profitably-sell enterpreneurs,
sellers of materials they have no ownership of, etc. students focussing on
the programs of, say free education upto junior degree, ensuring that
effective learning and teaching happens at school level, necessary
paraphanelia are available for labs; libraries; workshops; etc where they
are needed.
change gear, step up crescendo and defend the right to education of our
beloved nation.
i pause...

  On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Nndwamato Thomas Mutshidza <
[email protected]> wrote:

But Lazola you are crazy to suggest that the lavish style is a new thing.
Maybe you should look closer to why you do not graduate from student
politics like all of us. I was a President of SRC and leave normal life.
When student's did not have money to register, we took money from the SRC.
However because we had a programme, we went and fundraise such that we could deliver on mandate. However others before me leave lavish style and mind you there was no ANCYL or YCL. Hence you views are nonsensical and baseless. The
issue of the character of leaders is not a new thing. We have called as
convacant for leadership to intervene ininstitutional SRC 's Constitutional develoment that gives this space abuse of these resources. The isntitutional
statutes are the one that gives leadership power to do as they wish. An
example will be during my era as Branch Secretary and Chairperson
respectively, HQ will call for financial support and we provide outside of
our direct constituency, I hope that not corruption because we were giving
to the movement? For as long as you have institutionalise careerism within
SASCO and SRC, these and other challenges will stay for long time.

What then is our task. ANCYL was never established in shebbing or street
but in Istitutions of higher learning. YCL was re-launched to respond to the
pathetic lives of most SASCO leaders on campus including SRC. Hence I said
before you point fingers on what we are doing on campus, you must look at
your conducts. When we launched both ANCYL and YCL at TNG (TUT), was not
because we are afraid, it was to capture those students who does believe in
SASCO's principles or those that does want a middle way as was SASCO until
recent in KZN Congress wherein you were clear of your ideological stance.

We are not going to run away from the campuses, because it is on campus
wherein knowledge and opinions are made. Hence we will as YCL and ANCYL
intensify our pre-occupation with issues affecting Universities and Colleges
Communities including contesting fot power to give this transformation an
impetus that will tomorrow give to real change.

SASCO has never pre-occupy itsself with name calling, by the way students
as a strata in transit cannot be trusted of its end-state. It is this
believe that compell us to enter the societies to contest for space and
ideas to inform innocent masses.

If this our collective agreement, we should reject this self-centred view
as it fails to reconise that Education is one our Apex priority that should
guarded by all revolutionary serious.

Jeorlously or not we are convinced that the future look bright and all of
us have a role to play and let's stop this creation or invention of words to
suits our handlers.

We know most of those who use these terms are the real beneficiaries. By
the way we have proof of cde Vavi for example being a beneficiary of the
State Tenders at Department of Minerals Resources, the same goes to Blade
through their wives. The list is endless. Now cdes should not spill bile
because they are beatten at a tender process and they comeout speaking as if
they are holy than though.

I have done work and know what I am speaking about and if your handlers
have issues they must confront us.

Cde Tom Mutshidza
Chairperson of ANCYL Mahlambandlopfu
Writting in my own capcity.

On Oct 20, 2010 1:13 PM, "Lazola Ndamase" <[email protected]> wrote:

Tenderpreneurs must leave campuses alone!

20 October 2010

We will continue to contest Student Representative Councils (SRC's) in
order to ensure that they maintain their status as institutions whose
values are an expression of peoples' power. The moral stature of SRC's
should be jealously guarded against wolves of the capitalist market
who want to enrich themselves using SRC's as an instrument.

We have noticed with dismay the encroachment on campuses by the most
corrupt elements of society during the recent SRC elections,
particularly in the KZN province. We view the sudden interest of the
ANCYL and the YCL in SRC elections to be driven by nothing else other
than the wish of a small group of leaders who want to enrich
themselves through university tenders using Student Representative
Councils as ladder.

It is these tendencies that promote lavish lifestyles in our campuses.
It is these tendencies that contribute to the rise of corruption
amongst SRC members. It is these tendencies that erode the ethos of
morality and replace them with arrogant accumulation which is pursued
with brazen impunity. It is even more shocking that Tenderpreneurs
have found themselves space in the Young Communist League. It is
shocking that these businessmen are able to lead in Provincial
leadership structures of the YCL without the slightest signs of shame.

We value the strategic relationship between ourselves, the ANCYL and
the YCL, which is named the Progressive Youth Alliance. It has always
been an understanding of the PYA that SASCO leads the process of
contesting SRC elections and that all components (ANCYL and YCL)
support SASCO in this, just like the SACP and COSATU support the ANC
during elections. It is in this context that the insistence of the
ANCYL and the YCL to contest elections on campuses undermines the
unity of the PYA.

As SASCO we are committed to the struggle against Tenderpreneurship,
the new tendency, and anti-communism.

For details Contact:
Mbulelo Mandlana (President)
071 879 3408
Or
Lazola Ndamase (Secretary General)
082 679 8718

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