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From: Sithembewena Tsembeyi <[email protected]>
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:18:20 
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Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] SAUS President Responds to Takalani Mmbengeni

   1. Comrades Lazola and all progressive comrades, I have with great
   interest followed all the debates on Free Education and all interrelated
   Student "Working Class Students" issues.


One let me affirm you that I am a member of the YCL in the Dr Yusuf Dadoo,
serving in the DEC and comrade Buti is my National Secretary at this time,
but however as this may be, I am also a "Working Class Student" that suffer
the same yet true issues raised by my Organisation SASCO which I am a member
of in the UJ. I have been in this organisation lang before the
re-establishment of YCL when I was still a Arts student at Wits early 2001.

Many of us inclusive of comrade Manamela, Floyd, Phindile, Lazola and other
joined the YCL, which possibly we would have never known if it where not for
the same "attack suffering" SASCO.

At the verge of fearing victimization in the up coming Provincial Legotla
let me be straight I write my response not only as a
conscious disciplinarian but as a member of SASCO at a least.

Let first acknowledge that over the years the YCL and
most affectionately its leadership has become the real "Ufasimba", those who
would follow the Zulu King 'u-Shaka" can attest to what is mainly meant by
Ufasimba, well its true those who have named the YCL are Marxist readers as
this can be altar-lintched with Stalin's Molotov, however this is not the
matter for debate today.

But I would like to take you to one of my post in this forum "The
Manshevicks of the Party" late November 2008 if not early December 2008. the
Same attacks came from a variety of comrades but to not but not withstanding
others is the current Secretary of Gauteng comrade Alex, it was
a surprise to me as I was just not more than few months that I have
relocated to West Rand (Gauteng) from Eastern Cape that comrade Alex had
found means to merge me with what he termed the "Gauteng Bolsheviks", indeed
let me state this clear I am a "Bolshevik" but it is not of the environment,
but in the fear of contradicting myself I know well that
the environment determines ones consciousness. It was obvious at that time I
had to participate in the area where I resided.

For may times I had swallowed my pride and become an activist not
only because I had something to prove but because from the time I learnt to
be Marxist, I knew it requires ad-best discipline regardless of the
"Hitlero-Stalinist" one can meet along. One can term that mostly as the YCL
not withstanding the SACP, we have become what my comrade would note as
"Ideological vendors of every description".

Do not get me wrong comrades, my input is not to fight against this leader
or that one, as I would put it in the Blade way "I am fighting against the
'new tendency'", simply meaning to me but not in a common sense way, that
the new developments in the YCL and the SACP are but a threat to the course
for socialism regardless they come from that or this comrade.

*Let me take you through comrades why I wrote!!!*
*
*
comrade Lazola wrote at most five (5) notes in SASCO's Muithuti namely 1)
Cry the beloved students...,  2) Denialism in not going to solve but will
exacerbate our problems, and the three SASCO summoned to answer at the bar
of history namely 1) Should we shelve working class struggle
just because there is a threat of a New Tendency? 2) We want free education
not Ndzimande's head-Yet? and 3) Gradualism is a variant of reformism.

One can not deny that these topics by my fellow SG have been nothing but a
food for thought regardless of you position in society, government and or
organisationaly, I can hardly put down my hard copy of these thesis if one
is permitted to say as. but however the notes are just not a blow in the
wind but some ideological needed debate point, that led me to
even persuaded the institution that I am currently volunteering at to invite
him to make clear classical deliberations with the working you in my area
(Dr Yusuf Dadoo Workers Institute) on the 7th April 2011
at Bondasio Hall Randfontein.

However comrades one of the latest developments in SASCO not minimizing the
above and one posted in my response, is the one by none but the President
who supposedly was abroad when all this started meaning the
slash hammering between the SACP/YCL and the Student movements SASCO/SAUS.

Comrade President Mbulelo made critical points that I would like us to
delibarate on very urgently in his latest Political Points in MOITHUTI,
comrade notes quotes and write the following:

   - We Understand the socio-political conditions that define the retain of
   the struggle and we apreciate the nature of our surface upon which we
   travel. we are clear on the charector of the state that we face.."

This a clear answer to what I felt insultive of many of us by comrade
Malesela who by the way is a former member of the org when he write in his
capacity of the Spokesperson of SACP  and say "*SASCO does not have a
Marxist/Communist hand book...*"

   - The struggle to change the living conditions of the working class does
   not occur in the offices and enclosed spaces. It neither happens on the
   internet nor in the libraries. What happens and what is done in libraries
   and posh offices in an interpretation of the real changes and shift in class
   struggle taking place on the ground, any attack or defense of either a
   person or system or policy must be seen in realm of real struggles before we
   can put it on the website."



   - If you enter the kitchen you will feel the heat. The only way to avoid
   this heat in the case of unwillingness to bear it, is to remove oneself from
   the premises of the kitchen. It is almost near impossible in the context of
   this idiom that those that are in the kitchen have no contact what so ever
   with the especially if the conditions that make hot the kitchen to prevail.
   Why should we act surprised when the normal happen? whys should we question
   the legitimacy of the heat's presence when we entered with full knowledge
   that it is in its nature that this particular kitchen emits heat?



   - ...That the permanent features of all changes in society has been and
   is class struggle. The evolution of society has been propelled, even in
   spite of many subjective considerations, by class struggle and by class
   struggle alone. *The history hitherto exist society is the history of
   class struggles*. At no point in the development of society towards
   whichever direction has the class struggle not been a defining feature as
   result of either it being postponed, suspended or eliminated. At absolutely
   no point has this happened and for this reason the communist idea claims the
   highest moral ground among all strands or sets of thought for it is based on
   the most supreme and most indisputable notion: the notion of class struggle.
   In its totality therefore the work of the Communist Party is...



   - It is also true therefore that the class struggle in the South Africa
   is a constant reality. It is a constant reality despite the fact that
   progressive forces are occupying positions of power in government and it’s
   not unnatural that it is. To expect any less is not merely
   counterrevolutionary it also smells of naivety. It matters not that the
   African National Congress that is a working class biased organisation is
   leading the state, that the SACP as part of the dispensation occupies
   certain positions as ANC ministers, that the trade union movement at all the
   previous elections has endorsed the elections campaigns of the ANC. Even in
   this particular set of political circumstance it is natural that we ought to
   expect class struggle to occur and to intensify.



   - low wages, lack of housing, lack of access to education, should not be
   shunned by those who struggle for socialism but should be embraced as part
   and part of the work of the revolutionary party to pursue the struggle
   destruction of capitalist conditions for these are inherent ills of the
   capitalist system. This should be especially displayed when those who lead
   these confrontations do so on the basis of sound political programme. The
   question therefore is what is the task of the party in the simplest form
   possible in the context of capitalist state? What is the task of the party
   then in relation the ever-present class contradictions and what is its most
   urgent task in as far as the ideological struggle in a capitalist system is
   concerned?



   - what is the revolutionary or transformative duty of the Party in that
   state in the interest of mobilising for socialism. And perhaps to what
   extent is reformism likely to creep in the set of circumstances said in the
   last sentence?



   - The Party itself on many occasions have argued together with the
   progressive left in general that the task of the revolutionary forces in
   society with particular reference to those in the state does not involve and
   should never be seen as involving the duty to manage class contradictions in
   the state, or even better put, their duty is not to mediate in the
   contradictions between the working class and capital but their duty is to
   intervene on behalf of the working class as a true testimony to their
   revolutionary character.



   - ‘side by side with the antagonisms of the feudal nobility and the
   burghers, who claimed to represent all the rest of society, was the general
   antagonism of exploiters and exploited, of rich idlers and poor workers. It
   was this very circumstance that made it possible for the representatives of
   the bourgeoisie to put themselves forward as representing not one special
   class, but the whole of suffering humanity’

IN my conclusion comrades, Pres raise many critical issues and questions in
his notes but preferred to call thesis, on the party of our times, going
forth regardless of the 2012 congress of the Party, regardless of the ANC
2012 or COSATU congress, I am tamped to believe that this *"socialist
revolution"* May have been unaware temporarily suspended, shelved or what so
ever means that makes us left and found wandering as members of the YCL and
the SACP.

Lastly comrades I chalange us all if possible that on the 7th April lets
come in our numbers at WRDM Local Municipality to the Dr Yusuf
Dadoo Workers Institute 17H00 (5pm), take this debate  onces and for all, we
would also remember comrades that comrade Ali Nooshin from the IMT gave a
very critical writing of the YCL Mafikeng congress, he has also been invited
to form part of the declaration's.

Lets meet there.

Socialismo o muerte
Hasta la Victoria siempre

I remain!!!
Socialism in our life time... Socialism is the future...let build it now!!!
Sithembewena Tsembeyi
Dr Yusuf Dadoo YCL Treasure
0742342521


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Lazola Ndamase <[email protected]> wrote:

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> <http://www.thenewage.co.za/rssfeed.aspx>*
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>
>
> *Comments: We can’t be threatened, we represent students!*
>
> *Sandile Phakathi*
>
> On March 24, The New Age published an opinion piece under the name
> Mmbengeni Takalani, lashing at the South African Union of Students (SAUS)
> and the South African Students’ Congress (Sasco) for not doing their work as
> student organisations. At the risk of glorifying the hogwash carried in that
> article, I do think however, that it needs a direct response. Knowing
> Takalani, I know that both the ideas and the language carried in the article
> are far beyond his own comprehension. So rather than waste time responding
> to Takalani, I will instead respond to the “real authors”.
>
> Takalani is working at the SACP head office and is a member of the national
> executive committee of SAUS. It must be understood that he is part of the
> NEC of SAUS and “he” can’t be posing questions to himself. He has the
> courage to talk highly of public funds in his article, which I find strange
> and inconsistent
>
> It is interesting that the Minister of Higher Education, Blade Nzimande,
> does not bother addressing the issues that both Sasco and SAUS raised with
> him and instead seeks defence from the Young Communist League (YCL).
>
> This strategy has never worked with the student movement and the minister
> should know better. Since minister Kader Asmal’s time, any attempts from ANC
> headquarters to silence the student movement failed and it is not about to
> change.
>
> Takalani would have recalled that the last Sasco congress was in December
> 2009 and SAUS in April 2009 when he was elected to the SAUS NEC. Surely he
> can’t forget that, so obviously he is not the author.
>
> It is untrue that Nzimande’s department funds SAUS. Nzimande and his senior
> staff know that the last minister to fund SAU-SRC and Satsu was Asmal in
> 2002. The only funding that the union gets is a maximum of R120000 a year
> from SRCs affiliated to the union.
>
> It is not in the best interest of the minister to have a resourced student
> union. Because if you fund the student union it may have the ability to
> mobilise students across the country and the situation would be out of
> control.
>
> The leadership of SAUS last met with the minister in February 2010 at his
> request to help minimise strikes on campuses. Issues of transformation have
> never been discussed with Nzimande because he does not have time, despite an
> agreement to meet with us quarterly. It’s baffling to learn from the media
> that Nzimande has been meeting with us.
>
> The issues that the minister should address are:
>
> • SRCs have written numerous letters to him about allegations of corruption
> and business interests by ministerial appointees serving on councils of
> universities. He has not responded to these.
>
> • The recommendations of the NSFAS review committee which he appointed have
> been distorted by his department, especially the vulgar free education for
> final year students.
>
> • The taxation of the rich to fund free education is the responsibility of
> the minister with all his colleagues in cabinet, but the support for this
> must be solicited from him, before Treasury can effect it.
>
> • The demand for the building of universities in Mpumalanga and Northern
> Cape was a student demand and therefore we shall continue demanding answers
> on progress.
>
> • The minister cannot continue to lead higher education through committees.
> He must take responsibility and have the necessary courage to confront
> vice-chancellors about governance in institutions
>
> • He needs to be consistent in the manner in which he treats stakeholders
> in higher education, as he knows that he is only available for
> vice-chancellors and not for students and workers.
>
> • The stakeholders forum that the higher education summit resolved on must
> be put in place and its work begin without any further delays.
>
> • The review of the merger of the University of Limpopo must not be a
> Turfloop-Medunsa issue alone. It is about reviewing and reversing other
> mergers as well, including WSU.
>
> • The minister must STOP referring to work being done without the knowledge
> and involvement of stakeholders. This was one of his commitments when he
> took office; to be reachable and to be consultative.
>
> This must cease to be a political slogan and be lived by in practice.
>
> It has come to my attention that there is a claim of a conspiracy to get
> rid of the minister.
>
> If we had the power to do that as the students we would, but this is the
> responsibility of the president.
>
> Where to from here, Mr Mmbengeni Takalani? Are you still going to attach
> your name to statements you do not know about? For once have a conscience.
> *
> Sandile Phakathi is the president of the SAUS and a masters student at the
> University of KwaZulu-Natal. He writes in his official capacity*
>
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