I don't know how many times are we gonna cry about that ? Its time we actually DO something about it Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:11:37 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Zuma has a plan for youth Yes cde Gugs but to me its more like pouring fuel over a raging fire,once again media in a profit maximisation attempt at the expense of our glorious movement,following the recent developments,what we need is objective and true reporting as more often than not comrades literally misinterprets media reports. Boingotlo! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:03:58 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Zuma has a plan for youth Given the recent developments- I think its a very important thing to be made aware of . . Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 18:51:56 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Zuma has a plan for youth I think one posts stuff with an intention to start a discussion. But what can be said about this report? I don't see what one can discuss about this report. It is a prediction but we don't know if it is true. We are mostly members of the ANC and the SACP. There is not much to do with a report like this except to note it. The objective political question at the moment is how to consolidate support behind the manifesto priorities including the Green Paper on NHI and the Green Paper on Rural Development and Land Reform, which are both under heavy attack from the opposition and the media. VC On 4 September 2011 18:35, Thamsanqa Tu <[email protected]> wrote: > I find it interesting that this City Press story has not made it into > these forums today: > > Zuma has a plan for youth > > By: Piet Rampedi, Paddy Harper and Mandy Rossouw > 2011-09-04 10:00 > > President Jacob Zuma and his allies plan to take over the leadership > of the ANC Youth League as soon as next week. > > Seven inside sources told City Press that Zuma plans to dissolve youth > leader Julius Malema’s executive and replace it with a 25-member > group, called the “interim leadership core”, by the end of October as > part of the ANC’s 2012 succession battle. > > Zuma will tell the national working committee, expected to meet > tomorrow, that the youth league cannot continue with its top leaders > stuck in disciplinary hearings. An interim structure is needed, he > will argue. > > The decision needs to be finalised by the national executive committee > (NEC) which constitutionally has the power to disband any ANC > structure. > > Two youth leaders, an ANC national executive committee (NEC) member, > a provincial leader and three well-placed sources close to Zuma’s > allies said the ANC leader had been convinced by his confidants that > he could no longer “co-exist” with Malema. > > The plan included packing the interim structure with youth leaders > purged or suspended by Malema from the league. It would be led by > Limpopo youth leader Julius Malema as national convener and ANCYL > Eastern Cape chairperson Ayanda Matiti as secretary-general. > > The plan is for provincial and regional structures to be disbanded > and replaced with interim structures before a conference is held by > June next year, in time for next year’s conference. > > An ANC leader, who is neither sympathetic to Zuma nor Malema, said he > was aware of the plan. “Malema is going to be suspended or expelled. > Zuma’s people told him he needs to win or lose 2012 now. > > “Zuma is clever and won’t contest the conference if he knows he’s > going to lose. That is why he’s going for Malema.” > > A provincial ANC leader added: “Zuma has been convinced that he can no > longer co-exist with this boy (Malema). It’s either him, as president > of the ANC and the country, leading without being undermined or it’s > Julius.” > > Two youth leaders told City Press they had been approached about > serving in the interim group in case Malema was suspended. > > “The national working committee will check the relevance of the > league’s leadership nationally because of what is happening in the > country, such as the burning of flags, and make a final decision,” one > youth leader said. > > The sources said Malema’s nemesis Lehlogonolo Masoga was the initial > favourite to lead the interim group, but had since been ruled out > because he failed to appeal his dismissal from the league. > > Gauteng league leader Lebogang Maile was no longer an option because > the Zuma camp suspected him of having struck a deal with Malema. > > This entailed Maile withdrawing from the league’s recent presidential > race in exchange for the inclusion of his ally, ANC Gauteng > chairperson Paul Mashatile, in the league’s top six candidates as > national chairperson at the 2012 conference at Mangaung. > > For its part, the Malema camp has launched a counter-strategy that > includes approaching former president Thabo Mbeki to stand for the > position of ANC national chairperson to get rid of Zuma. > > Two ANC sources in KwaZulu-Natal said they had heard rumours that the > ANCYL and its backers had approached Mbeki to stand. > > “We’ve heard that they have been talking to Mbeki to try get him to > come back as chairperson to build the profile of their slate and add > capacity,” said one source. “This does seem to fit in with their > comments around Mbeki’s presidency, the wearing of Mbeki T-shirts and > the comparisons of the two presidents raised by the league.” > > A source with knowledge of the discussions said that the league > leadership will need to bring Mbeki’s nomination to the league NEC – > where it will meet “massive resistance”. “If they propose him, we > won’t accept that . . . That man will bring back all the things that > made us kick him out. We will reverse the gains of Polokwane.” > > According to the source there are only three candidates for the > national chairperson position – incumbent Baleka Mbete, Mashatile or > Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi. > > A Luthuli House official said it is clear the league is making > overtures to Mbeki. “They are sending messages saying they will be > the foot soldiers if he fights Zuma.” > > There is doubt about whether Mbeki would accept such an offer. > > “Mbeki is one of those people who have intelligence; I doubt he will > soil his hands,” the official said. > > Mbeki’s spokesperson Mukoni Ratshitanga told City Press he was not > aware of approaches to Mbeki, who he understood was “out of South > African politics for good”. > City Press > -- > Kind Regards, > Thamsanqa Tu > > If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you're a comrade of > mine - Enersto Che Guevara > > -- > You are subscribed. 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