Vuka makadebona wevukayibambe ? manje njiyabona mchana wami ukuthi hhhayi bo, ungabangena manje. injani impilo maVusane, uyibambe kanjalo.
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vusi Makamu Sent: 05/10/2011 08:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC statement on the Dalai Lama visa application Comrades, as much as I don't agree with the statement by Tutu I think his anger is justified by the manner in which this matter has been handled. I must admit that I have limited knowledge our foreign policy but I'm trying to understand, why did our administration took much time to respond to the Dalai Lama application?. >From what is in the public domain is that SA is protecting its interest which the Chines. The difficulty I'm having is that Dalai Lama was visiting a private individual and there was no obligation of the Government officials to receive Dalai Lama at the airport, I believe they should have responded to him in time. The old Man cancel the trip because he did not get a respond on the 4th day when he was supposed to be in the country on the 6th day.Whatever the justification the Government may raise in the delay to respond to the applicant,the only logical answer we may have is that they refused.You can not expect a person to travel a broad in just under one day to prepare fro the trip. As for Tutu comparing us with Iraq,Egypt and Libya I believe he failed to understand that those countries were not democratic govt hence there were just upraising.but if the govt continue to ignores the basic delivery needs of the people we may expect such kind of revolt. AMANDLA Vusi Makamu Legal Officer Mpumalanga Prov Govt Dept of Economic Development,Environment and Tourism Private bag x 11215 Nelspruit Tel 013 7664111 Fax 086 6228678 >>> <[email protected]> 2011/10/04 10:19 PM >>> Cde's Indeed ANC is correct, Government should respond ANC was doing so cause it was mentioned to abuse its majority support. It Tutu who said won't cast vote Zuma and today he cry like a baby, did he vote before enjoy the benefits of voters? What about your Vote is your Voice? Vanguard! Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:20:49 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC statement on the Dalai Lama visa application I just watched e-news now and saw Tutu really upset Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:04:26 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC statement on the Dalai Lama visa application This statement is very vague and doesnt give a clear indication on the stance of government regarding the prolongation of issuing the Visa of Delai Lama Sent from iPad -----Original Message----- From: Dominic Tweedie Sent: 04/10/2011 21:13:12 Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC statement on the Dalai Lama visa application [ANC] ANC Statement, 4 October 2011 Dalai Lama visa application The African National Congress (ANC) calls upon all South Africans to stay calm, including Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, and afford the Government of South Africa the opportunity to take us all into its confidence around the Dalai Lama visa application and its subsequent withdrawal. The Archbishop knows it well deep down his heart, mind and soul that the ANC and its government cannot be equated to the repressive and divisive apartheid regime, which had never cared for the majority of the people of South Africa, Africans in particular. Archbishop Tutu knows it well that the ANC has not downplayed the contribution by any interest group in South Africa, including Faith Based Organisations, Non-governmental Organisations, Labour Federations and Interest Groups. The ANC has always been embracive and consultative in its approach and character. As a result of the ANC reputation, record on human rights, democratic principles and South Africas progressive Constitution, South Africa is today recognised by international organisations, such as the United Nations and the African Union as a critical role player in international peace and as a protector of human rights. As such, the Archbishop comparison of the (1) ANC and its government to the apartheid government, (2) to the ousted former Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak, and (3) to the former President of Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, is very unfortunate and totally misplaced. The ANC has always respected all South Africans including those in the churches, and other sectors such as; labour, business, traditional and religious formation, for the role that they have played in the struggle against apartheid. More important, is the role played by the ordinary people of our country, who joined the ranks of the ANC and other liberation movements in pursuit of the freedom that we all today enjoy. It is in the DNA of the ANC to respect all the sectors in our society and abroad. In as much as the Archbishop is incorrect in saying that the ANC is not respecting the Faith Based Organisations, it is equally incorrect for the Archbishop to say that the ANC abuses its majority or its overwhelming support in the country. The ANC has actually done contrary to the Archbishop claims. The history of the ANC pre and post apartheid has been that of consultation and listening to all sectors and the views of those who might also be against the policies of the ANC. We are appealing to the Archbishop to calm down and work together with the ANC and its government, first, on the Dalai Lama issue and secondly, we appeal to the Archbishop not to pray for the demise of the ANC led government, but instead to work together with the ANC and pray for the ANC led government to deliver a better life for all the people of South Africa. 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