Comrades, What should be the role of siting cabinet members in relation to legislation around State Security and its agencies I wonder.
For a sitting cabinet member to make this allegation publicly is a dismisable offence from cabinet and as a member of parliament. ST On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Dumani Mnyombolo <[email protected]>wrote: > Mbalula must be the man and face the consequences, he must not come up > lame political excuses > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Scelo Gcabashe < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> maybe its high time we revert to high moral ground... our behaviour must >> project a morally accepted norms of the society.. by doing so, we wont >> run the risk of having to fend off such very distasteful accusation... i >> do not even understand how can we glorify such apologies.... >> >> >>> Sakie <[email protected]> 2011/11/09 10:59 PM >>> >> at least the incoming secretary tried to use a condom unlike other >> leaders who prefer not to use condom.it is becoming a tradition in our >> movement to use women to destroy image of comrades,1st it was Zuma I >> wonder who is next.hands off to mbarks hands off. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 08 Nov 2011, at 6:33 PM, "Setja Diphoko" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On a serious note: >> > >> > I don't think the woman was sent. Her situation might have been >> hijacked as we know that this RICA thing has really extended the >> surveillance capabilities of the state. >> > >> > The powers might have hijacked this opportunity and found it >> lucrative for them. If you are a politician and you know that you are on >> the offensive of some sort, please stay clean! >> > >> > >> > Lesetja Diphoko >> "Sent via my >> BlackBerry" >> >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:35:47 >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [CU] Mbalula 'honey trap': Spy agency >> pleads ignorance >> > >> > Kwakwakwakwa!!!!! >> > >> > Cadres am being serious-if this woman was sent , then we must equally >> ask why he fell for it. . >> > >> > Cadres we all know that politicians become targets for many reasons >> and hence they need to be careful. The problem is now a child >> potentially is involved-did the spies also make sure the woman >> conceives? >> > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:22:42 >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [CU] Mbalula 'honey trap': Spy agency >> pleads ignorance >> > >> > At Gugu, >> > >> > They planted razor BLADES inside her and they cut the condom!!! >> > Sent from my BlackBerryŽ >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:22:17 >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [CU] Mbalula 'honey trap': Spy agency >> pleads ignorance >> > >> > This gets interesting by the day >> > >> > Just as a matter of interest cadres did the Spies also burst the >> condom? >> > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Treasure Mathebula <[email protected]> >> > Sender: [email protected] >> > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:09:47 >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [CU] Mbalula 'honey trap': Spy agency >> pleads ignorance >> > >> > same as they did to Jacob Zuma prior to polokwane conference, but we >> > will never be shaked by them Fikile Mbalula for secretary no >> > compromise and no amount of lies will make us quit that >> > >> > On 8 November 2011 11:54, Lerato Motimele <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The State Security Agency (SSA) is not aware of the claim that >> Sports >> >> Minister Fikile Mbalula's short extramarital affair was actually a >> >> politically motivated trap set by them, as reported in the New Age >> on >> >> Tuesday. >> >> >> >> "We are not aware of the claims being made and we urge people who >> have >> >> legitimate complaints to approach the Office of th >> e Inspector >> General of >> >> Intelligence and lay a formal complaint," SSA spokesperson Brian >> Dube said >> >> in a statement. >> >> >> >> The New Age reported that the married Mbalula, who has publicly >> confirmed >> >> having sex with a woman he met at a party, believes he was the >> victim of a >> >> trap set for him by "rogue elements" in South Africa's intelligence >> >> agencies. >> >> >> >> According to the report, the woman was paid R150 000 to "rubbish his >> name" >> >> by operatives meddling in African National Congress (ANC) squabbles >> in the >> >> run-up to the party's elective conference in Mangaung next year. >> >> >> >> The atmosphere in the ANC was "polluted" and state security agencies >> were >> >> being used to spy on the party's leaders. >> >> >> >> "State institutions must not be used to fight political wars. It >> must stop >> >> now," he reportedly told the newspaper. >> >> >> >> The SSA responded by saying: "We are worried by the tendency of >> politicians >> >> to make broad and unsubstantiated claims reflecting negatively on >> the >> >> integrity of the agency. >> >> >> >> "The minister of state security is on record appealing to >> politicians to >> >> stop politicising the work of the agency," said Dube. >> >> >> >> Mbalula reportedly told the New Age that the political environment >> in the >> >> ANC was "really a poisoned one" and that the reports on his short >> affair >> >> were part of a broader political plot using state agencies to >> discredit him. >> >> >> >> However, Mbalula, who is a former ANC Youth League leader, >> acknowledged that >> >> he was largely responsible for the scandal. 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