Cde Philip dont be emotional mchana, there is no threat here. I am just a politician responding political "criticising" thats all, dont respond upon unpleasant hormones, order mchana order.
On 11/10/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > @Bongani,go to you Mazibuko,if u can't tolerate disciplines and processes of > this organisation...The ANC Leads and ANC Lives....finish and klaar...u like > it or you don't,that's the ANC for you...take it or leave it..go to you > Mazibuko,in fact you were one of those misquotes that found themselves in > the ANC,when the ANC open its windows for fresh air,...Go Baba and stop > giving us threats.... > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bongani Mtshweni <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:08:35 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] [CU] IS IT TIME FOR MAILE TO EMERGE? > > Maile aint my ideal leader, rather join Mazibuko who is Jujus Mirror. > > On 11/10/11, Kgaogelo Kgolomodumo <[email protected]> wrote: >> Say whatever u would like but the following shall apply. I'm proud to be >> ANC member. >> >> Julius Malema has been suspended from the ANC for five years and, if his >> appeal fails, must vacate his position as the youth league's president, >> the >> ruling party's national disciplinary committee has ruled. >> >> Malema has two weeks to appeal the decision. He remains on full pay until >> the outcome of the appeal. >> >> <http://mg.co.za/multimedia/2011-11-10-the-rise-of-julius-malema> >> The rise of Julius >> Malema<http://mg.co.za/multimedia/2011-11-10-the-rise-of-julius-malema> >> As the outcome of Julius Malema's disciplinary hearing is announced, the >> *Mail >> & Guardian* takes a look back at his humble beginnings and his rapid rise >> to the upper echelons of SA politics. >> More videos <http://mg.co.za/multimedia/video> >> The youth league leader was found guilty of undermining party leadership >> and sowing division in party ranks for his criticism of ANC and South >> African president Jacob Zuma, as well as bringing the party into disrepute >> by recklessly denouncing the Botswanan government, in conflict with ANC >> policies. >> >> He was found not guilty on separate charges of inciting hatred and racism. >> >> *Floyd Shivambu axed* >> Spokesperson Shivambu was suspended and found guilty on several charges >> for >> swearing at a journalist, and for accusing the ruling party of associating >> with imperialists. >> >> Hanekom described Shivambu as defiant, arrogant and ill-disciplined. >> >> His membership of the ANCYL was suspended for three years and he had to >> vacate his position as spokesperson. >> >> Shivambu was guilty of prejudicing the reputation of the ANC for swearing >> at a journalist, said Hanekom. >> >> *Magaqa's rap* >> Additionally, league secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa was found guilty of >> bringing the party into disrepute by publicly condemning ANC national >> executive committee member and South Africa's minister of public >> enterprises, Malusi Gigaba. >> >> For this he was sentenced to an 18-month suspension from the party, which >> in turn was suspended for three years. He was also ordered to make a >> public >> apology to Gigaba within five days. >> >> Malema, ANC Youth League spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, deputy president >> Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso >> Magaqa and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi were found guilty by >> the ANC's national disciplinary hearing of ill-discipline and undermining >> ruling party leadership. >> >> The youth league leaders were found guilty and each handed a sentence of a >> two-year suspension from the party. The sentence itself, was in turn >> suspended for three years. >> >> *Everything above board* >> Announcing the ANC's national disciplinary committee's decision, >> chairperson Derek Hanekom insisted the disciplinary process had been >> properly initiated and followed. He underscored the importance of >> discipline within the party as "non-negotiable", and said the committee >> had >> rejected arguments, put forward by witnesses at the hearing -- including >> Winnie Madikizela-Mandela -- that the youth league was autonomous and >> independent from the ANC, its constitution and its processes. >> >> Hanekom said the committee had also rejected suggestions that the >> disciplinary hearing mightbe used to settle political >> scores<http://mg.co.za/article/2011-10-05-sexwale-dont-use-malema-hearing-to-settle-scores> >> . >> >> Malema's first appearance before the ANC disciplinary committee took place >> at Luthuli House at the end of August. It was moved after violence erupted >> in the Johannesburg CBD. >> >> Youth league members and supporters threw rocks, bottles and bricks at >> journalists and police, and burnt ANC flags and T-shirts bearing the image >> of Zuma. >> >> *History of discipline* >> This is not Malema's first time in front of the ANC's disciplinary >> committee. In May last year, he was hauled over the coals for accusing >> Zuma >> of being worse than former president Thabo Mbeki for berating him in >> public. >> >> After a bungled prosecution, Malema was eventually ordered to apologise to >> Zuma, to pay a R10 000 fine, and was sent to a political school and to >> anger-management classes. >> >> The national disciplinary committee at the time said should Malema be >> found >> guilty of provoking serious divisions or a break-down of unity in the >> organisation within the next two years, his ANC membership would be >> suspended >> >> *Out in force* >> A huge metro police contingent was deployed outside Luthuli House in >> central Johannesburg on Thursday morning, ahead of the announcement of the >> hearing's decision. >> >> President and Sauer streets were closed for security reasons by 7am, said >> Johannesburg metro police spokesperson Chief Superintendent Wayne Minnaar. >> >> "Our officers have been deployed to monitor the situation around Luthuli >> House," said Minnaar. >> >> "They will be there for the rest of the day," he said. -- Sapa, Staff >> reporter >> >> A previous version of this story said that ANCYL spokesperson Floyd >> Shivambu had been suspended for remarks made about Public Enterprises >> Minister Malusi Gigaba. It was in fact the league's secretary-general, >> Sindiso Magaqa, who received this sanction. >> >> *For more news and multimedia on ANC Youth League president Julius Malema* >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Lerato Motimele >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Since the top six of the youth league have been suspended, is it proper >>> for one to think that it is time for Lebogang Maile to emerge, including >>> the likes of Lehlohonolo Masoga? Just a question. And also, this may mean >>> that the youth league NEC may be disbanded and go to an urgent elective >>> conference. >>> >>> What your view cdes? >>> >>> Lerato >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. 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