Cde VC
So it is wrong for us to call what happened in the ARAB COUNTRIES
termed "the Arab spring" as a revolution because there the people who
are in charge are from the very same class. The working class I argue
did not seize the moment; instead they are still looking for direction
from those who were sidelined by the previous regimes of Ben Ali et
al. I think it was a replacement of one elite group by the other
elites who were sidelined.
For instance what is happening in Egypt the very same army commanders
that led under Mubbarak are still in charge now as we engage hence the
recent uprisings at Tahrir square?
Nicholas Zwane
Quoting "Dominic Tweedie" <[email protected]>:
The ANC is not a class.
VC
On 21 November 2011 16:06, Fusi Motaung <[email protected]> wrote:
Dominic, if I understood you, revolution is, in effect, circulating within
the ANC. Am I following you?
Siyabonga, the ANC has been, to use Dominic's words, "ruling" for 17 years
already. Has there been a revolution to speak of since then? I am asking
this because if Dominic's argument is to be followed, the ANC has had how
many revolutions, three? But I could be wrong.
If we were to follow your argument, Siyabonga, there has only been one
revolution (which was when the ANC replaced the apartheid government.) I
follow your argument about how people are still destitute (although we can
both note some positives done during the period.) So, should the ANC carry
on with the threat of revolting against ITSELF for reasons that it is not
managing to "totally liberate" the masses?
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Dominic Tweedie <
[email protected]> wrote:
Mind if I move an amendment?
Revolution is the replacement of one ruling class by another.
Asikhulume!
On 21 November 2011 15:27, Matela Mthwalo <[email protected]>wrote:
Fusi,
Revolution is a replacement of one system of governance with another.
The question is: Should a governing party maintain a
revolutionary posture?
Against which system?
Regards,
Matela
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Fusi Motaung
<[email protected]>wrote:
Calvin, interesting piece. You know, at the risk of displaying my
ignorance, I would like you to please educate me: What is revolution?
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:11 PM, calvin Tshamano <
[email protected]> wrote:
The General Secretary of Nehawu, cde Fikile Majola has consistently
characterised Limpopo as the home of the revolution. The statement alone
can appear confusing and misleading in the light of Limpopo being the
anchor of the tendency and populist demagogue threatening to divert and
derail our revolution.
I also do not feel the GS statement was informed by the number of
leaders the province has produced, because while we have produced great
leaders like Cde Makgatho who was the president of the ANC, CDE Sparks
Ramagoma, Peter Mokaba,Joe Maswanganyi, and many more, so many more have
been produced elsewhere in the country.
Im more than convinced that the characterisation was informed by an
observation of the political challenges that the province have faced
previously and how its cadres have risen to defeat such
challenges. If you
care to rewind a few years back before Polokwane 2007 at the
height of the
1996 class project, Limpopo was not left out in this challenges. Very
progressive comrades were sidelined and dealt with just because they did
not agree on the path that the ANC was being taken to. State
resources were
used to manipulate normal ANC processes ( e.g. conferences ) You will
remember how cde Sparks was dealt with and cde Joe Maswanganyi was not
spared the attack.
We however also observed how the structures of the ANC revolted
against the class project until its demise in Polokwane and Univen
conferences.
So, in the light of the populist demagogue which has captured both the
Limpopo government and the ANC, we are assured that we have
culpable cadres
in this province who can wage a strong defence of the ANC. It
is now that
the province must rise to expectation through structures of the
ANC begin
to lay a foundation for a national defence of the ANC. Im very sure that
other provinces are waiting to see how Limpopo will deliver itselft from
the clutches of anarchist and narrow accumulative populist demagogue.
We owe it to Sparks Ramagoma to ensure that Limpopo should not fell on
wrong hands.....and yes ....If the GS comes in Limpopo sometime next
year....he must with pride still say: Limpopo is the home of
the revolution.
Kind regards
Anti populist demagogue cadre
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