The bill is available here www.pmg.org.za..why is Cosatu opposing the bill if all is well?
Sent from iPad -----Original Message----- From: Gugu Ndima Sent: 24/11/2011 14:46:27 To: Mathope, Simon SN Cc: [email protected]; African Front; CU-LJ; YCLSA-FORUM; [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: #POIB Viva Cde Simon!!! On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Mathope, Simon SN < [email protected]> wrote: > Comrade I have not read the whole bill yet but you must be careful by not > putting all your eggs in one basket, thus far from what I read there is > nothing the forbids a reporter to publish information. The difference is > that it is not going to be a free for all as has been but proper process > has to be followed . This bill also has nothing that forbids the reporting > on corruption as the commission and the independent judge can overrule > that. There are a lot of stop caps that will not allow any public servant > to abuse this bill. Rest easy comrade Iraq was bombed because of the > recklessness of the government laws to protect itself, Afghanistan > followed, Egypt, Tunisia, Syria. > > Look at how the Egyptian revolt against Mubarak unfolded, the seed that > was sown to the gullible for cooked information brought the country down > .it was fair that Mubarak had to go but that was supposed to be managed and > controlled. Now there is a vacuum and Egypt will never be the same again. > All those countries I mention comrade got where they are because of > information peddling, David Maynier of the DA nearly caused a lot of > trouble by giving the M&G info from parliament that was not supposed to be > for the public and mail and guardian claimed public interest at the behest > of the country and that was bad. > > Let us study the bill properly and give informed analysis on it rather > than this pre-ejaculation crab we read from the media. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Setja Diphoko [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 21:17 > To: African Front; CU-LJ; YCLSA-FORUM; Mathope, Simon SN; Gugu Ndima; > [email protected] > Subject: #POIB > > I am really shocked at people who sings Minister Cwele's song when he says > there is no where in the bill where there's a referral to the Media, that > is really a narrow approach. Chapter 2 of the Bill Sec3(1)b says "The act > applies to juristic and natural persons to the extent that the Act imposes > duties and obligations on such persons." > > How must our Journalist report on corrupt commercial practices by > governmental officials? Chapter 5 Part B Section 12(2)a of this #POIB says > on information which requires protection against disclosure: Commercial > information that is not in the public domain, which if released publicly > would cause financial loss or competitive or reputational injury to the > organisation or individual concerned. > > Be honest how will we know about dodgy deals in the Department of Public > Works or any governmental department? Probably at many branches somebody > made a presentation on this Bill and people being opportunistic didn't > wanna offend "The Powers" and just simply said "Amandla!" This is a > draconian law! > > I worry myself when a Journalist uncovers some deep secrets and I ask > myself how they got that information, who helped or funded them? But if > there is a case to be answered all the perpetrators needs to be brought to > book irrespective of sources. Becareful not to be caught with your hand in > the Cookie Jar, therefore stop corrupt practices! > > People who work hard for their money will stop this Bill, the working > class shall rise against self enrichment schemes by Politicians. > > Communist Regards, > > Lesetja Diphoko > "Sent via my > BlackBerry" > Standard Bank email disclaimer and confidentiality note > Please go to > http://www.standardbank.co.za/site/homepage/emaildisclaimer.html to read > our email disclaimer and confidentiality note. 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