Mpumalanga is the most corrupt province in our country and political killings are well known there.
In North West,a provincial department spent all its budget within the first six months of the financial year,but we didnt see this kind of intervention. If u can refer to the auditors reports on various municipalities and provincial departments,if the principle of fairness was applied,most provinces would be under the national treasury. Masondo argues that the salary increase agreements of civil servants had a lot of impact on them because they have to accomodate the increases from their already tied up budget. According to the Mail & Guardian,there was no consultation on the decision. Infact most of the senior officials quoted,complained of political interference on the decision. During Thabo Mbeki's tenure,we complained that the state was used to settle political scores. But when it comes to Zuma,we keep quiet. Aurora employees as we speak,wont be able to buy their kids christmas clothes or enjoy christmas with their families because of Khulubuse Zuma and Zondwa Mandela. Those who claim to be the vanguard of the working class are quiet. They are quick to attack Malema but are quiet on Aurora. As we speak,more than 2000 families have lost breadwinners and NUM has lost membership subscriptions from those 2000 and more employees. We are also quiet on the influence that the Guptas have on the state. On 12/16/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Klaas if u read u would have noticed I said I care less about media > accreditation. That there must be media conference is your idea, I reject > making it mine and I refuse convening such a conference. But I respect your > right to go ahead to action your ideas. > > I'm looking forward to the outcome from a forensic audit relating to > finances and supply chain management in Limpopo, for the past 2 years. This > can't be stopped simply because there are conferences behind which there are > others who want to hide. Reading from DHM's paper I have more reasons to > expect this forensic audit: some admission there's a rat smelling is made > but under the complaint that there could be more if the audit goes back > beyond 2 years. > > Dear Klaas please defend DHM correctly. What u are doing opens him up and > makes further exposures about him. By the way DHM as MEC for Finance has > been dispensing monies used to make capitalists richer and richer instead of > advancing socialised ownership and control from the powerful position he > held. It's useless talk about others allegedly not having political will > whereas one is worse than them. Actually speaking this continued labelling > by DHM of other to be lacking political will is LIBERAL to the extreme. It's > out of sink with class analysis. In Marxism-Leninism it rather is a class on > its own and a class for itself that constitutes a motive force for economic, > social and political change, in class struggle. In fact, the slogan that so > and so lacks political will is factional mobilisation for conferences. We > are not class fools to be send to sleep and demobilised on the basis that > certain individuals supposedly having "political will" if are to replace our > current leadership will deliver us out from the yoke of capitalist class > rule. We shall not outsource the task of fighting for what in YCLSA Gauteng > as part of the working class, taking cue from clarity by Engels (Socialism > Utopian and Scientific), we called universal emancipation. > > One last thing is worth mentioning. > > We are for socialisation of ownership and control of means of production and > the produce of social labour power. For us, state ownership is not an end on > its own. It is rather a means to an end. We know very well that state > ownership does not necessarily do away with labour-capital relation. > Depending on its class content, in particular as derived from the class > character of the state which is largely determined by a class that > constitutes the ruling class rather than a mere analysis, the state can > actually exploit more and more people as a machine of the capitalist class > when that is the ruling class. We know, that rather than capitalist class > state ownership and rather than state capitalism even, the solution lies in > a revolution to overthrow the capitalist class and replace it with the > working class in a position of ruling class, have public power in the hands > of the working class and with it organised as the state, centralise not only > mining means of production but all instruments of labour, capital and credit > in its hands. This solution is concealed by talking a lot (of actually > nothing if not hot air) about nationalisation of the mines or even "the > commanding heights of the economy" without saying absolutely anything about > or paying attention to the class character of the state and the all > fundamental need to intensify the class struggle for placing the working > class in a position of ruling class. Some individuals have found refuge in > repeatedly calling for nationalisation without outlining class content and > by so doing pose as the most or only revolutionary. That's senseless. We are > not opposed to nationalisation. We are for working class nationalisation > based on a proper appreciation of our tasks at each moment of the struggle, > the balance of forces and properly thought out strategy and tactics rather > than ultra-leftism, populism, right-wing demagogy, adventurism, opportunism > and the like. > > End for now! > > > > Sent by AlexM > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sakie <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:10:10 > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] David Masondo on the Limpopo administration > > Well said leader > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 16 Dec 2011, at 12:52 PM, "Klaas Nono Mabunda" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Cde. Alex, indeed you are correct that the Media Statement doesn't open >> for more Media accreditation, because we understand clearly as an >> organisation that congress is for members or delegates representing >> branches with a membership status that's in good standing. >> >> If Alex want to convene a conference of journalists, do it at your own >> accord, we cannot have a congress where a media company is represented by >> over two respondents in one conference of the ANC, you can't caution me to >> read whilst you are blind yourself or posses an inability to differentiate >> between nine and six, or unless you have deployed your ignorance stunt. >> >> The statement apologises and promise to redress the shortfalls, but >> furthermore clearly articulate that it will only allocate a room to >> correct errors to those that initially applied for accreditation, not >> fools in full speed that will want to start applying for accreditation. >> >> I equally cannot submit my classification of a leader to be an Entryist >> merely because his approach to dealing with issues is sensed that the view >> to masquerade mediocre of purging. >> >> Comrades become involved politically with an intention to host many >> understanding on matters of significance not through and over an >> impressionist bombshell, that in the process of political growth the sight >> on issues brightens opposed to dim, on its own it is not a licence for >> name calling and subject an MEC who is responsible for Finances to being a >> Capitalist or a cocoon that always shaved its true outer. >> >> Perhaps a debate should be invoked that shall focus on who should >> represent the ANC in government and what shall the person be called after >> having had attained that position of responsibility, a petty-bourgeois >> ultra-leftist perhaps, then where does Blade fit in the category of name >> calling as some are given degrees of names. >> >> Masondo inherited the problems and as cadre devoted to the struggle for >> the emancipation of all our people from all forms of neo-liberal agenda >> not "a person who enters a political organisation in bad faith, under >> false pretences, with the aim of climbing high in its ranks, and then >> exploiting that position." >> >> How can inheriting a department with such intricate challenges be as a >> result on parasitic aftermath, yours is playing with thesis in a strong >> view to undermine the obviousness, let alone your tendencies of complete >> arrogance and abundance of real material issues. >> >> Perhaps we should be told what communism is and also that why is the Red >> Tshirt used to distabilize provinces in the Name of the Hegemony for the >> dictatorship of the proletariat. >> >> VC, what in particular do you have against Masondo? >> >> "Eager for expropriation proves determination for rightful ownership, >> especially where compensation is unlisted" >> From: <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:38:38 +0000 >> To: <[email protected]> >> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] David Masondo on the Limpopo >> administration >> >> Klaas must read the media statement he refers to. It makes it clear that >> it does not seek to reopen the accreditation process, by the way that >> resulted to exclusions. I less care about this any way, but reading will >> help Klaas. >> >> Klaas must read. It is DHM who accuses the ANC Cabinet of factionalism. I >> REPEAT, to the contrary it is DHM who wrote a document, referred to in my >> last email, advocating what he called decriminalisation of factions and >> allowing the formalising of factions. This document was (and still is) the >> product of factionalism itself. It was (and still is) factional. I REPEAT, >> from this evidence, that the worst remnants of factionalism have a >> tendency to pose themselves as "non-factional", the contradictions of DHM >> are there to be seen. But if Klaas wears the same spectacles he will look >> at this factionally by ignoring undisputed material evidence. I REPEAT >> with addition. DHM would like to blind us that is appointment, NB, not >> election, into provincial legislature, MEC and spokesperson position are >> non-factional. Only being childish, and not concerned by anything at all, >> you can be convinced. Where does DHM stand in the provincial conference. I >> doubt he's not with those who conferred him appointments. This brings us >> to another related point, patronage and servicing of patronage. That's >> where he could be. >> >> If DHM is being transparent, why not all along but after Section 100 >> (1)(a)? Only after death when we lost the right of reply can we be told >> that which Klass seeks to advocate. But our no reply the will not mean >> consent. It will only mean we don't hear, we are dead. >> >> >> >> Sent by AlexM >> From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:55:21 +0200 >> To: <[email protected]> >> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] David Masondo on the Limpopo >> administration >> >> >> I'm not saying that DHM's politics are shifting, Cde Klaas. >> >> I strongly suspect that his politics have never shifted, and that he has >> always been a Harveyist by nature, or in other words a PBUL - a >> petty-bourgeois ultra-leftist. >> >> I think that while posing as an SACP cadre, DHM was really an entryist all >> along. That's, let me repeat, ENTRYIST. It means a person who enters a >> political organisation in bad faith, under false pretenses, with the aim >> of climbing high in its ranks, and then exploiting that position. >> >> I did not spell it out in my previous e-mails, but since you are keen to >> press on down your disastrous road, here it is. >> >> Let me repeat: David (DHM) Masondo was a hidden sectarian petty-bourgeois >> ultra-leftist climber from the beginning of his political career which >> took him to the position of National Chairperson of the YCLSA and >> membership of the SACP Central Commmittee, after which he collected his >> javelin in Limpopo Province as MEC for Finance. >> >> His latest hat is of spokesperson for the ANC in Limpopo, in which >> capacity he is busy trying to factionalise the media. >> >> I will predict that the very media victims will go light on David Masondo, >> and will instead blame "The ANC" or even the President of the Republic for >> what David "Harvey" Masondo has done all by himself. >> >> This is because the bourgeois media recognise DHM as one of their >> petty-bourgeois own. I predict that they will preserve him even when he >> appears to be trying to hurt them. >> >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 December 2011 09:59, Klaas Nono Mabunda <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> If "remnants of factionalism call themselves non-factional, pose as >> non-factional," >> Then you too Alex & VC are factionalist that seeks to sit on a chair of >> non-factional appearance, the article by Masondo actually put in >> transparency and related aspects that the Limpopo Provincial >> Administration 's Financial Problems are existing and bail outs and >> amicable resolution of the encounter are called upon, yet you allow hatred >> myopic reactions to rub all the visible issues Masondo raises and timely >> raise petty capitalisation of sentences and unreadable paragraphs, then >> drag the Media accreditation squabble in the whole thing, regardless that >> the ANC Limpopo has issued a Media Statement that apologised on all those >> affected by the circumstances and promised redress on the matter, you both >> speak like Masondo is the PEC, let alone pretending to forget that >> Communications is the Subcommittee within the PEC thus it acts on >> instructions and guidance of the PEC. >> >> You always find a way of turning tables against the floor and endure >> pleasure in enjoying to claim misinterpretation of a document submitted >> mainly by those against President Jacob Zuma 's tactic of leading, yet you >> claim non-factionalism from your part, label comrades and force linkage >> with Pseudoist like Trosky, then drag Lenin in the scene of your >> differences just to better present your insinuate characteristics. >> >> The financial problems in Free State and North West are equivalent if not >> worse than Limpopo, but an enforcement of Section 100[a] is enforced to >> Gauteng and Free State, [b] to Limpopo, [b] being the most drastic >> subsection under Section 100, whilst at the same space there are >> contingency measures put in place to address the fiscal shortfalls of the >> Provincial Government. >> >> North West is literally undergoing shambling leadership and management >> crisis which stands at threatening both Organisational and State Security, >> due to mounting in fightings on and about, however, scenarios of raising >> descent to President Zuma and Mantashe 's leadership aren't rife there >> hence no enforcement tightened. >> >> Including the Eastern Cape Department of Education, where have you >> honestly seen the enforcement or imposing of Section 100 being fruitful to >> both the state and the masses the state is expected to shelter, it is not >> a solution at all. >> >> Why is the Bank Overdraft at Limpopo an issue or subject for intervention >> now of late after that Provincial Government undergone the same challenges >> dating back from the years as mentioned by Cde. David Masondo, why wasn't >> the need to probe Supply Chain Processes there start at around before and >> after the financial year 2003\2004 when Low Cost Houses where half built >> but fully paid or why isn't the Department of Sports, Art and Culture >> there not listed to be taken care of by National Ministers after the >> Department has hosted in succession the Mapungubwe Festival, organised >> with over R3.4 Million and only manage to make R80 000, which the >> Department has lost over R2.8 Million. >> Why wasn't it effected when the Department of Agriculture had problems >> with accountability on State owned Farms. >> >> The Provincial Government indeed as Cde. Masondo has raised needs help not >> technical antagonism to see to it the masses of our people are not >> destitute and that the Economic or Revenue collection processes are not >> intercepted. >> >> VC as always you allowed your inability to draw a line between >> Factionalism and pointing out of facts, to deliver your tongue to >> recklessness. >> >> Why dismiss a writing dogmatically in place of acknowledging the reality >> it possesses. >> >> Perhaps your Mental Colonialism of Extra-Ordinary Special Type >> (colonialism of EOSP) is real but applicable to you, As for terming him >> Harvey, you lost memory and count of ideology and the fact that life is >> not stagnant so is the seeing and understanding of issues at a particular >> juncture of a comrade 's articulation and realities prompting the >> articulation, are you saying that it is only communist if your believes >> aren't shifting, or is reliability perhaps to you accredited when a person >> resists growing ideologically. >> >> Cde. Masondo and many of us 's observation are true that the Decision is >> Congress Biased whose outcome matters a lot to us all the residents of >> Limpopo. >> >> "Eager for expropriation proves determination for rightful ownership, >> especially where compensation is unlisted" >> From: <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:49:46 +0000 >> To: <[email protected]> >> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] David Masondo on the Limpopo >> administration >> >> Dear VC, >> >> This are my preliminary observations, I will return with final copy of >> response on every word, sentence and paragraph including illustrations. >> >> The CDE who has been championing the so-called decriminalisation of >> factions and championing factionalism himself, involved in it, is >> complaining about what he perceives to be factionalism. I agree with you >> on your point about what CDE David ("Harvey", as you have identified him) >> Masondo (DHM) says about factionalism recently, I mean in his latest >> article as pasted by Tu. In the Disruption of Unity, Lenin shows, taking >> Trotsky head-on, how the worst remnants of factionalism call themselves >> non-factional, pose as non-factional, and now we can add, complain about >> what they perceive as factional. Read DHM's 2010 paper on Nationalisation >> and Corruption (rejected by YCLSA) to see for yourself and come into >> contact with written exhibit, and the look at his alignment and >> realignments, part of which got him as MEC and Spokesperson. For DHM this >> is purely non-factional. Jo! >> >> Secondly, according to DHM provinces are independent countries, only made >> part of SA through Section 100 of its Constitution which amounts to >> colonialism, perhaps of Extra-Ordinary Special Type (colonialism of EOSP). >> This perception by DHM is obviously senseless, worst kind of factionalism, >> in fact separatism of un-thought disorder. >> >> I'm very much interested since we went to elections two years ago, in >> 2009, how Limpopo spent public money. By projects being complete is it >> meant falling bridges, incomplete RDP houses that have been paid for in >> full already? It only makes sense that the value of money for projects and >> prices that have been paid be investigated thoroughly regardless of >> provincial conference taking place or not taking place. Hiding behind >> provincial conference, whose outcome matter less or not at all to many, is >> really taking people for a ride. It also hides another dominant view which >> DHM is part but does not talk about, i.e. a view to use the fact that >> there is provincial conference and national conference taking place now or >> later and then using them as shields and reasons to prevent real or >> alleged corruption from being dealt with. >> >> Preliminary end. >> >> >> Sent by AlexM >> From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:45:22 +0200 >> To: <[email protected]> >> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> Cc: Group Communist University<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] David Masondo on the Limpopo >> administration >> >> >> One thing I always try to maintain is readability. This post of your is >> unreadable because it has no paragraph breaks, Cde Thamsanqa. >> >> In this form it just gives the impression of a long scream of pain by the >> man whose glorious career as Finance MEC of Limpopo has been cut very >> short. >> >> At a personal level I am sorry for David Masondo, who has always been >> polite and pleasant in his manner towards me. >> >> The fact that he managed to keep his politics (the politics of David >> Harvey) hidden from view for so many years while he climbed the ladder, is >> another matter altogether. >> >> I think that Cde Masondo has a problem to distinguish between the >> constitutional workings of the mass movement, and factional activity. >> >> In his simple mind, factionalism is what his opponents do. The three >> fingers pointing back at himself, he does not notice. >> >> We will just have to wait and see what the outcome of the Limpopo congress >> is, if we can see it. >> >> It may be difficult to see, because now the same David Harvey Masondo has >> popped up in the guise of ANC spokesperson, and he has been busy excluding >> any journalists he may not like from the Limpopo Provincial Congress - >> something that I cannot recall happening at any ANC, COSATU or SACP >> Congresses at any level, before. >> >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 December 2011 07:02, Thamsanqa Tu <[email protected]> wrote: >> Vice Chancellor Tweedie, >> >> I came across this piece of writing on David Masondo's facebook page, >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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