The nature of comrades we have make me wonder if is still worth it referring to 
some of us as "Comrades"! 

But I will offer assistance- I am available to help those who have been 
drinking to much branded water, go "kapa"...

My apology for that, but Africans do often- ba "phalaza" to avoid this short 
tempers!!!!!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thabo Molamu <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:10:37 
To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just
 functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.

Who ever said we fear Julius? Your head is spinning neh...

Thabo Molamu's iPad

On 20 Dec 2011, at 4:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> It's what I'm doing now... Point out what is wrong no matter how I say it n 
> not be a coward n fear another man... 
> Many of you critique Julius in your corners alone but you fear to be known on 
> such... Umna ke I don't...
> 
> Tell him Madala said so...
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:07:33 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Lol woooooow! So low! And what's the role of the other youth leaders?
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:59:20 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> He contribute to them with Sushi King
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> From: [email protected]
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:04:51 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Apologies meant to say ANCYL but you can't attribute the youth social ills to 
> just one person?
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
> From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:52:40 +0200
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> 
> Tuki-baby, comrade Malema is not the president of the country.
> 
> He just thinks he is.
> 
> 
> VC
> 
> 
> 
> On 20 December 2011 15:36, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is this what is called critical thinking and understanding, practically 
> attributing the ills of society to one person? By the way comrade Malema is 
> still the president of the country and do not get me started on chauvenists 
> in the party especially top office! Are the administrators of this group 
> encouraging this?
> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
> From: "Klaas Nono Mabunda" <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 13:18:28 +0000
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just 
> functional mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Ja noh, ga o sa loka mo
> "Eager for expropriation proves determination for rightful ownership, 
> especially where compensation is unlisted"
> From: sive gumenge <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:07:04 +0200
> To: <[email protected]>
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just functional 
> mechanisms of capitalism seeking to weaken the ANC and the State.
> 
> Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans are just functional mechanisms of capitalism 
> seeking to weaken the ANC and the State. 
>  
> With the recent drug scandal news which have smack our country in the past 
> week, affecting young females of South Africa, I “had” expected the youth 
> (nationally) interested in the ANC Polokwane Conference to amongst other 
> things prioritize to anticipate resolutions on free education, youth 
> employment and protection of South Africa from the foreign capitalist order 
> that has invaded our country through drugs and parties. 
>  
> In my opinion, the acts of drug smuggling by young people should not be 
> divorced from the realities of poverty, youth unemployment and lack of 
> knowledge and skills in making a genuine living. I don’t however, distant it 
> as an act of crime.
>  
> I got so disgusted to observe amongst in the structures of Youth League, they 
> were referring to ANC Limpopo Conference as a “Night out with Castle Lager 
> and Soviet Jeans”, rather a pulpit of fundamental change in a province 
> dominated by extreme poverty.  However, I think I expected too much from 
> “friends” of Julius Malema and Cassel Mathale to be thinking what I was 
> thinking. They think similar to Malema, whose brain is only pre occupied by 
> liverish lifestyle which is sustained by state tenders in Limpopo and the 
> desire to turn the ANC into a “daily birthday party” than a liberation 
> movement of the people of South Africa.
>  
> The reemergence of African Chauvinists that colluded with Armchair Theorists 
> (whom for years exploited the Communist Party’s state influence and its trust 
> on them), has put further our country into threat of foreign invasion by 
> international drug lords, (whose colour doesn’t matter) that have identified 
> the youth majority of South Africa is unemployed, uneducated which makes them 
> unconscious of capitalist realities and are driven by materialistic things 
> such as clothes, alcohol and parties.  This grouping is clearly showing its 
> true colours that it engages in struggle for self-interest than to protect 
> South Africa from international capitalist forces that will do whatever it 
> takes to undermine our democracy and the history of the oldest liberation 
> movement in Africa even selling drugs to innocent kids.  
>  
> The African Chauvinists and the Armchair Theorists are nothing but just a 
> group of Angrists since and towards Polokwane Conference. The African 
> Chauvinists had felt sidelined under the Mbeki Regime of the 1996 Class 
> Project and they resolved in regime change with a “desperate” Jacob Zuma who 
> was under serious victimization by forces of the project, without knowledge 
> that this was in exchange for state tenders upon his arrival at Mahlabandlovu.
>  
> Similar, to the Armchair Theorists who felt sidelined in their attempt to 
> hijack the MTV (Medium Term Vision) of the South African Communist Party, 
> with their narrow in ability to contextualize Marxism-Leninism in relation to 
> state influence and state power. It clearly shows that they are so eager to 
> be in the state so that they can reveal who they really are.
>  
> If we don’t do thorough class analysis of our situations, we will miss the 
> opportunity of identifying these threats to the state, which amongst other 
> things capital is used to achieving that goal. While close to 660 South 
> Africans are trapped in foreign prisons, Malema and his group are busy 
> throwing free for all parties at Moses Mabida Stadium in celebration of what 
> they narrowly term “economic freedom in our lifetime victory”, which in its 
> true meaning is capital wastage. Yes we do want economic freedom in our life 
> time but for the majority not minority representatives of poor people.
>  
> Of course South Africa will never be the same as it was previously and the 
> people of South Africa must be economically emancipated in totality but they 
> must be careful of being made “one night stands prostitutes” by those who 
> live double lives. I agree that Karl Marx says, “Everything which exist, 
> exist of necessity. But equally everything which exists is doomed to perish, 
> or to be transformed into something else. Thus what is “necessary” in one 
> time or place becomes “unnecessary” in another”, however, we cannot therefore 
> turn South Africa into a Sheeben State of Castle Lager and Soviet Jeans, but 
> we strive harder to turn South Africa into a productive country that is 
> driven by morality and communal living.
>  
> We must protect South Africa into turning to a “black-man you are your own” 
> kind of a situation. Individualism is capitalism and it promotes selfishness. 
> Certain foreigners enter our country not for better living but to make money 
> and they promise young South Africans who are unemployed and uneducated all 
> sorts of lies to a better a life. This individualism is lived by Malema 
> through his liverish glorious lifestyle of wasting money in parties and 
> overseas trips while he advocates that he is poor.
>  
> I think it is time we use the recent mistakes of the young female South 
> Africans as experiences that will be utilized to defend our country from all 
> forces of capital invasions. We must all ways remember that capitalism uses 
> all forms life and things to survive and now it has used innocent women to 
> smuggle drugs in foreign countries for its survival.  It is unfortunate to 
> note that, capitalism knows no colour but knows useful idiots for its 
> survival.
>  
> Cde Sive Gumenge
>  
>  
>  
>  
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> Mr. Sive Gumenge
> Western Cape
> 0768945800
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