Juju on Sabc 1 our future is in our hands...1994 no longer relevant Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:33:30 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] FW de Klerk warns against ANC plans for "second transition" So he wants to hold the ANC at ransom? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:28:24 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] FW de Klerk warns against ANC plans for "second transition" FW de Klerk warns against ANC plans for "second transition" F W de Klerk 07 March 2012 Former President says ruling party wrong to contemplate a break with 1994 consensus THE ANC PLANS TO END SOUTH AFRICA'S HISTORIC CONSTITUTIONAL CONSENSUS Eighteen years ago we South Africans reached agreement on the kind of country we wanted to become. After three years of difficult negotiations we agreed that we wanted a society in which the Constitution - and not the majority of the day - would be sovereign. We agreed that that Constitution should make full provision for the protection of all our fundamental rights; that we would have free and independent courts; and that we would establish a truly democratic system of government subject to the rule of law. We all agreed on the need for transformation - on the rapid development of our people toward equality, human dignity and the full enjoyment of rights. We also agreed on the need to protect our languages and cultures and to ensure that no-one could be arbitrarily deprived of their property. Parties representing some 90% of our people - and substantial majorities of all our communities - endorsed the constitutional accord. We reached agreement despite our deeply divided and traumatic history. We succeeded despite all the crises, the walk-outs, the violence and the reality that we all had to make painful concessions. Our achievement was rightly regarded by the whole world as one of the crowning glories of the latter part of the 20th century. It was seen everywhere as an example to all divided societies of what could be achieved by rational debate, compromise and goodwill. I believe that whatever party we belonged to, it was our finest hour. It was on this basis that the National Party under my leadership surrendered sovereign power - not to another political party - but to the constitution. Earlier this week, in discussion papers for its upcoming policy conference, the ANC announced that it wants to sweep all this away. It believes that the balance of power nationally and globally has shifted sufficiently for it to dispense with the compromises that it had made in 1993 and 1996. According to Jeff Radebe, the ANC's Policy Chief, "our first transition embodied a framework and a national consensus that may have been appropriate for political emancipation, a political transition, but has proven inadequate and inappropriate for our social and economic transformation phase." Radebe also announced that the ANC plans to dispense with some of the cornerstones on which our new society has been established, including the present role and powers of the provinces. In line with the controversial Green Paper on Land Reform property rights would also be at risk. Other cornerstones of the constitutional accord that are already under threat include language rights, the right to education in the language of one's choice; the freedom of expression and the right to access information. Most seriously, the government is maneuvering to limit the role of the courts. None of this should come as a surprise, since the ANC is simply implementing the next steps in its long-announced National Democratic Revolution. The National Party did not agree to the transition naively or with its eyes closed to the ideological nature of the tripartite alliance. It realised full well that the ANC might one day reconsider its solemn undertakings. However, it believed that in addition to the guarantees that we had negotiated into the constitution there were other powerful forces that would help to ensure that all parties would honour our accord: the collapse of the Soviet Union had swept the ideological ground from under the feet of communists all over the world; a new global consensus had developed on the fundamentals of democratic governance and responsible fiscal and economic policy. In our globalising world, no government could afford to ignore these new international norms; we also hoped that as the ANC became used to the complexities of government it would quietly abandon its outmoded ideologies; finally, we realised that just as we could not govern the country against the will of the majority, a majority government would not be able to rule effectively if it violated the fundamental rights of our minorities. Our symbiotic relationship dictated that whether we liked it or not we would have to work together to achieve success. We would have been foolish not to seize this unique opportunity for a just and honorable settlement. The subsequent eighteen years have proved that this was the right decision. As the ANC points out, South Africa has made substantial progress in so many areas. Our country is respected in Africa and throughout the world as an inspiring example of non-racial democracy. With all its faults it is a far better and a far more just country than it was in the past. We have indeed not made nearly enough progress in addressing unacceptable levels of inequality, poverty and unemployment. However, these transformation failures cannot be ascribed to our constitution. They are primarily the consequence of inappropriate policies. Evidently, the ANC now wants to jeopardise all of this. It imagines that it can write off the influence of free market democracies and align itself instead with China, Russia and its friends in Cuba. It thinks that it can invent a new approach to economic development that will free it from the need for the fiscal responsibility that it practised with such good effect for the first seventeen years of its rule. It thinks, most dangerously, that it can treat minorities as it pleases and impose new forms of discrimination against them in line with its ideology of the National Democratic Revolution. It is wrong. Any move to abandon the solemn national consensus that we reached during the constitutional negotiations would destroy irreparably the brave foundations for national unity, democracy and transformation that we have developed since 1994. It would slash open once again the divisions of the past and divide the country along racial lines. Once the powers of independent courts have been sufficiently diluted - it would end the prospect of a society based on democratic values and fundamental human rights. There are many other matters in the discussion papers that are problematic, but I have dealt here only with some of the key issues. As Mr Radebe points out, the discussion papers are intended to be the basis for a vigorous national debate. He invites "all sectors of South African Society and our people at large to engage with these discussion documents" because they "will have a profound bearing on the future development of this nation." In this spirit, I would like to renew my request to the government to hold genuine discussions on these issues with those elements of our society - from all our communities - who continue to support the constitutional consensus that the ANC now wishes to discard. Issued by the FW de Klerk Foundation, March 7 2012 Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:25:03 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital Hence we say the autonomy issue must be tackled . Comrades I heard something highly disturbing said by a young white male I quote "if we had known that this Democracy can advance our wealth this quicker . We would've suggested to give them freedom 50 year's ago". . .what does this tell you??? Mina ngikhathele on a serious note Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:18:19 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital He should be able to intervene on the high fees of the universities, its can't be correct that one would need about R60 000 for a year to pay for tuition, residence and food. It is unacceptable. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:11:32 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital Haai take us serious. This like saying Mayor is not working bcz in front of my yard there is still water... Haai haai... We r saying there has been huge strides in Higher Education and we are not saying all is complete.. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:10:08 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital University of Pretoria is no different Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 07:06:41 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital Honestly he is fighting really hard for transformation and there tangible things to measure change in Higher education. The resistance is within institutions that don't implement their mandate or policies. At UJ (kingsway) racism remains rife and they still find ways to segregate students from disadvantaged backgrounds Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 09:07:31 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital This must be real Gugs,coming from you?lol,but now seriously Blade is the most all-over-the-show minister doing so much for the proletarians! Boingotlo! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 06:57:49 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital Comrade Blade is really doing well in H.E Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: VC <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:22:56 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Minister Blade Nzimande: Colleges are vital The Times *Colleges vital - Nzimande* *Mhlaba Memela, Sunday Times, 9 March, 2012 * Qualifications obtained at Further Education and Training colleges should be on a par with university degrees, Higher Education Minister Blade Nzimande said yesterday. Speaking at a campus in Durban, he said colleges should no longer be "glorified high schools". "We can not have a situation where students study in the colleges for three years but, when they go to university, they are required to start afresh. "We want to build these colleges as the first choice for our students not just an alternative [to universities]," he said. Nzimande said qualifications earned at colleges were important to provide the skilled workers in short supply in the country. He said his department was working hard to make it easy for youngsters from poor backgrounds to get an education and help fill skills shortages. "The increase in registrations by 60%, over half in our colleges, means communities are starting to understand the importance of sending their children to these colleges. Colleges are vital in driving economic growth," he said. Nzimande said students graduating from colleges had practical experience, while those from universities did not always have this. In an effort to improve qualifications from colleges, Nzimande said his department had established relationships with some industries to ensure lecturers were exposed to workplaces. "Lecturers at the colleges have never been in the workplace and they teach students only theory. That will now change as lecturers are exposed to the industries," he said. The department would conduct an audit to establish financial and staffing needs for the colleges, which would no longer be controlled by provincial departments of education but by the national Department of Higher Education and Training. *From: http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2012/03/09/colleges-vital--nzimande* ** ** ** -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . 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