My argument is sensationalism is there and its evident, but we can't make insinuations about who posts it or what the intentions are . I have equally seen patterns of posting and changed"headlines" but never questioned or attacked the person posting. Fact of the matter is that whether something is posted or not-its somewhere in the news, electronically or printed.
Trevor posted something to share with fellow members of the forum. Ours is to interrogate it, as opposed to interrogating him. Sensationalism and twisting of truths is inevitable in our media as agendas are out therem unfortunately agendas supported by some of our own comrades in senior positions. Factionalism is ripping our organisation apart and we should fight it Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:59:13 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Motlanthe gets public support for top ANC job Cde Gugu, you are a spokesperson. You read the media and you talk to the journalists. I put it to you that the truth is that formations are solidly behind the ANC's elected leadership and there is no succession battle. The news this weekend from KZN, Gauteng, and the SACP Provincial Secretaries was fresh, substantial and specific. The stunt at Nkownkowa - a rally, not a delegate conference - was nothing new and it was as bogus as could be, which everyone can see (sorry, Skizo, you are exposed again). The Times front page says "Revolt against Zuma". This is worse than rubbish, Gugu. It's blatant lying. We need your leadership in the matter of media Cde Gugu. You know how it works, so tell the people. VC On 26 March 2012 09:38, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Yep. . .we have seen quiet a number of rubbish posted here > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:34:44 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Motlanthe gets public support for top > ANC job > > > Ask yourself: Why did I (VC) not post it? > > Of course I saw it long before Trevor posted it. > > I passed over it because it is rubbish. > > > VC > > > On 26 March 2012 09:04, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> But its not Trevor who wrote the story-its Business day >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:59:22 +0200 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Motlanthe gets public support for top >> ANC job >> >> >> Cde Gugu, >> >> The real news is that KZN ANC Women's League and SACP Gauteng are solid. >> In the Business Day, these stories are on page 3. >> >> The rally that is reported on the front page of the Business Day, and on >> the front page of The Times, was an empty stunt. >> >> Kgalema could hardly be heard above the conversation in the stadium. >> >> The crowd, such as it was, was not interested in Kgalema and may not even >> have been aware who he was. >> >> If Cde Trevor looks at the hard-copy version of the Business Day he will >> see what I mean. If he saw the eTV news report of the event he would know. >> If he looked at the SAPA report of the event which said that Mkhuluwa could >> not be heard above the noise of the crowd talking among themselves, he will >> know. >> >> >> VC >> >> >> On 26 March 2012 08:36, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> I think Comrade Trevor was making everyone alert and posting the >>> article, like everyone else does on the forum >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> *Date: *Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:31:09 +0200 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Motlanthe gets public support for top >>> ANC job >>> >>> >>> Good morning Trevor, >>> >>> We watched that stunt on TV. >>> >>> It fools nobody. >>> >>> Least of all does it fool the characters who plastered it on the front >>> pages of the newspapers, trying to make gold out of rubbish. >>> >>> What makes you want to join them, Cde Trevor? >>> >>> If you have the Business Day you can look at page 3 where the proper >>> news is recorded. >>> >>> >>> VC >>> >>> >>> >>> On 26 March 2012 08:18, Trevor Kekana <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> [image: Business Day]**** >>>> >>>> IN A rare public showing of its "hidden" succession race, Deputy >>>> President Kgalema Motlanthe yesterday addressed an African National >>>> Congress (ANC) Youth League rally in Limpopo with suspended leader Julius >>>> Malema, who is said to back him for the ANC presidency.**** >>>> >>>> The appearance of the two, before a crowd of thousands wearing T-shirts >>>> bearing images of Mr Motlanthe, is the strongest indication to date that >>>> the ANC’s succession debate is gaining momentum, and that the party is >>>> losing its battle to keep it under wraps. **** >>>> >>>> ANC policy holds that only the face of the incumbent president should >>>> appear on party paraphernalia, including T-shirts, and the party officially >>>> discourages lobbying or jockeying for position.**** >>>> >>>> Mr Motlanthe’s message to the youth league rally, that the ANC needed a >>>> "militant, creative and determined" league, will anger those in the party >>>> set on ridding it of Mr Malema by expelling him, among them President Jacob >>>> Zuma , who was abroad yesterday, in South Korea.**** >>>> >>>> The youth league is at the forefront of a campaign to install Mr >>>> Motlanthe as ANC president in place of Mr Zuma, when the party holds >>>> elections in December.**** >>>> >>>> In another sign of an attempt to inculcate unity amid the divisions of >>>> the succession race, ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe yesterday said >>>> the party would crack down on dissenters who derided leaders — also in >>>> songs. Anti-Zuma songs were sung at yesterday’s rally. **** >>>> >>>> However, Mr Mantashe defended Mr Motlanthe’s right to address rallies >>>> organised by the league. Even so, Mr Motlanthe sharing a stage with Mr >>>> Malema will be awkward for the ANC. Mr Malema remains president of the >>>> league pending his appeal against a decision to expel him.**** >>>> >>>> Speaking at the rally yesterday, Mr Malema announced a change in >>>> approach, saying that he would seek redress in the courts if expelled. So >>>> far he had consistently rejected the idea of taking legal action against >>>> the party.**** >>>> >>>> "I said I would not go to court, but now I have decided to do so. I >>>> need no mandate, and act as an individual whose rights have been violated," >>>> he said. **** >>>> >>>> However, Mr Malema called on the crowd not to abandon the ANC, saying >>>> the party was the only hope for the country’s poor. While individuals would >>>> come and go, the ANC would continue.**** >>>> >>>> "I will never be welcome in the ANC. I have been fired in the ANC. But >>>> I have no problem with that. **** >>>> >>>> "I did what I believed in and I did it on my own. I was not told by >>>> anyone to do anything," he said.**** >>>> >>>> "I have not been chased from heaven, but from the ANC by a faction that >>>> can only do so as they currently have power." **** >>>> >>>> The youth league was being victimised by its own leaders, Mr Malema >>>> said. He would not accept being victimised by anyone. **** >>>> >>>> "There is no longer a youth league of the ANC. We are a former self. >>>> They have succeeded in killing us," he said. **** >>>> >>>> Mr Motlanthe said revolution was deliberate and methodical. He could >>>> barely be heard above the din of the crowd.**** >>>> >>>> "The ANC has no use for a passive youth league. We need our youth >>>> league to be militant, creative and determined. 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