If u don't want to learn by being respectful and humble, and u don't want to hear or listen to others but your-self or own person only, then these processes represent the last resort to political education and ideological training. The same applies when u listen to or hear the voices of wrong persons only. Still, the same applies when u continue to say "referee and player at the same time", referring to ANC NDC. One day u will learn that facts are stubborn things independent from your mind, brain and conception of yourself and others, and that whether u like them (facts) or not u are compelled to recognise them and proceed from reality when handling all matters.
The fact is, there's something wrong with Julius' conduct, which is in fact misconduct. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ________________________________ From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> Sender: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:17:13 +0200 To: <[email protected]> ReplyTo: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC Please read the "findings" that I have just posted, which come from the NDCA. As far as I can tell, there is no question of anyone "recusing themselves": not NDC, and not NDCA. VC On 17 April 2012 15:40, <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Then they can't be player and referee. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ________________________________ From: Sbu Khambule <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:00 +0000 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> ReplyTo: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC The chair of NDC has made it clear of their rescues because of the conflict of interest as they have initiated charges of temporal suspension ( conflict of interest comes in there ) Comrade you are correct From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 17 April 2012 03:22 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC Any member who has a conflict of interest on the issue presided on should recues themselves. Regardless whether they NDC or NDCA members. I think, Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ________________________________ From: Sbu Khambule <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:18:30 +0000 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> ReplyTo: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC If my memory serves me well, the NDC not NDCA will recues itself during the hearing according to Derik ( NDC chair ) Maqabene correct me if I’am wrong From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Seun Sehume Sent: 17 April 2012 01:40 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC I thought the NDCA were to recues themselves from the whole temporary suspension of J Malema? Or that will only come to effect when the hearing commences? From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 17 April 2012 01:32 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC Can u help, what does this mean??? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! ________________________________ From: VC <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:49:32 +0200 To: <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> ReplyTo: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC NDCA dismisses J Malema's application to set aside temporary suspension imposed by NDC [ANC] Public announcement by the ANC National Disciplinary Committee of Appeal, 17 April 2012 Application by Comrade Julius Malema to set aside his summary suspension imposed by the ANC's National Disciplinary Committee The applicant, Julius Malema, applied to the NDCA on 5 April 2012 to set aside the temporary suspension imposed by the NDC. The applicant based his application on the grounds that the NDC breached the ANC Constitution, the rules of natural justice and the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa. The applicant submitted Heads of Argument on 14 April 2012 and confirmed a prior agreement with the NDCA that the applicant would be decided on papers. The NDC suspended Julius Malema for his utterance at a public meeting at the University of Witwatersrand on 30 March 2012 that, inter alia, under President Jacob Zuma democracy [in the ANC] has been replaced with dictatorship. The NDCA has dismissed Julius Malema's application to set aside the temporary suspension imposed on him by the ANC's NDC on 4 April 2012 and found that the NDC did not breach the ANC Constitution, the rules of natural justice and the Constitution of the Republic of South Africa. By virtue of the technical nature of the application, the NDCA has decided to attach its complete Findings to this public announcement. In terms of the Constitution, the Secretary General of the ANC and applicant's representative were informed of this decision prior to public announcement. 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