It is even worse when they say the President should be used and prepared for such humilations. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 23:08:08 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President @[email protected] I've asked a question to the authors of the statement, as an attempt to seek clarity why there's silence over the other exhibited artworks by Brett Murray--which arguably are as offensive if not worse than the one of the presidents exposed genetilia. Surely its not an unfair question to ask, nor an unfair expectation to have for any author to research and investigate on a matter they write on and publish for public consumption. Now, had such an exercise taken place it would have enriched the statement, ensuring that it deals holistically with the underlying theme of the artists work. A half cooked or selective approach gives the impression that Zuma's exposed genetilia is more important or far worse an offence than that of demeaning the logo of the ANC and suggesting its an organisation sold to the highest bidder. Hence my enquiry on the apparent silence. Lastly, since ur tone suggests you feel personally aggrieved by my question, I'm certain Manga is mature enough not to get hot under the collar over a mere question--and if any anything will take the constructive criticism levelled on the oversight. Ta I remain Mbali Hlophe Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:29:34 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President Cde Mbali r u having problem with us condeming the disrespectful manner in which the President of the ANC hv been protrade? Mayb we are not commenting on the other pictures because we did nt c them until now and why r u because u have seen them not saying anything? Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:02:15 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President Comrades Y is there silence over the other pictures Brett Murray has done: especially the ones depicting the ANC logo written FOR SALE and SOLD over (see attached)??? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:51:43 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President I agree with u... Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Mongale William Mothusi <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 09:39:01 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President This is war. Brett Murray should be arrested and charged with treason so that whoever thinks of depicting a sitting president in such a manner should think twice. This is disrepect of the highest calibre to the president and the country. And also the Goodman Gallery should be closed for life, so that their Masters should come out. In a war there is no freedom of expression, people should be put where they belong. Cde's, our goverment should also stop being soft on people who are undermining it. ------------------------------ On Fri, May 18, 2012 6:46 PM EEST Gugu Ndima wrote: >Tjo...where does that come from??? > >On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:45 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cdes, >> >> The Photo is not an attack to Zuma... It is attack to communists... The >> photo is an attack to SACP... Take note that the picture is of Lenin... >> With a dick out, it mean Zuma "fucks the Party".... Let's be honest here... >> >> There are many statutes why this one of Lenin???? Why??? Why??? >> >> Let's not play games here... >> >> It's my view... What's yours??? >> >> Madala >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Khaya Xaba <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:36:52 >> To: yclsa-eom-forum<[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful >> photo >> of the President >> >> YCLSA Press Statement >> >> May 18, 2012 >> >> YCLSA utterly disgusted at the distasteful photo of the President >> >> The Young Communist League of South Africa [uFasimba] is utterly >> disgusted by the portrayal of the State President in a distasteful >> manner by Brett Murray of the Goodman Gallery. In the photo the >> President is seen in a pose made famously by Vladmir Lenin with his >> private parts showing. >> >> As much as we support both freedom of expression and the right of >> artists to express themselves freely we also strongly feel that art >> should not be used to obliterate the dignity of others. We totally >> dismiss the lame reason that this photo is meant to stimulate debate. >> How do you stimulate debate when you tarnish the image of others? What >> kind of debate is this that seeks to be debated by humiliating the >> state president by showing his genitals? This is a purely inhumane >> conception of debate and should never be allowed to flourish >> disregarding who might be the target of that art. >> >> There is a thin line in freedom of expression and artist must be able >> to express themselves without producing work that is morally poor. As >> the YCL we feel that is an abuse of freedom of expression aimed at >> further portraying our state president as someone who lacks morals. We >> see this photo as nothing but an attempt by the Goodman Gallery to >> encroach the dignity of the State President through liberal art that >> is objectionable. >> >> We note the refusal by the Goodman Gallery to remove the photo after >> pleas from the African National Congress [ANC]; and as the YCLSA we >> support the decision by the ANC to take legal action against them and >> will further lobby other members of society to understand that there >> is a reason why there is a limitation clause in the Constitution >> especially when in exercise of rights others encroach on others’ >> rights and hide under freedom of expression. >> >> Issued by the YCLSA >> >> Mangaliso Stalin Khonza >> National Spokesperson >> YCLSA >> 083 617 5546 >> 011 339 3621 >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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