BuaThursdays will run every week until December 6 and we are already working on sessions for 2013.
Tonight's session is in Naledi Hall. Comrade Solly Mapaila and Comrade Baleka Mbete will make presentations on organisational, alliance unity and the NDR. Vuyo Mvoko will be the moderator. The session starts at 18h00. Sent from my iPad On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:58 PM, Thabo Njinga <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrade vc I accept the moderation and hope to still receive the material. > It's true that am not a witness, but let me try and explain. I beg for your > patience. One of the arrested is my friend with whom we started the study > cycles, we lost him on the way. He tried calling me upon his arrest to inform > his family. I got people to go to the station and that was their account. As > I said ever since that strike we haven't talked me and him as am far. But I > am not claiming coarse and effect for marikana was just wondering. Thanks for > your patience > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:44 PM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Cde Njinga, >> >> What you are giving us is "hearsay". You are not the witness to any assaults >> by the police upon those they have arrested. >> >> One top of your hearsay you build an alarm tower. You say you don't condone >> something but immediately you suggest that the perpetrators were provoked to >> do what they did by the police. >> >> As your moderator, I do not have patience with this kind of stuff because it >> is not honest. In the first line already you try to deceive by giving >> apologies for digressing and then digressing. Why did you dump this >> irrelevant stuff on Cde Sbu's post. >> >> You are moderated. >> >> VC >> >> >> >> >> On 17 October 2012 22:21, Thabo Njinga <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Apologies for digressing comrades. One looses hope when a police services >>> actively participates directly in industrial labour disputes. The amplats >>> workers are on strike, it is an illegal one for two weeks. Am informed of >>> workers arrested in the last 30 minutes. They were taken to a police >>> station people there are reporting that they are being assaulted. Will this >>> not escalate the tension and breed another marikana. To now at the mine no >>> one is killed except the minor treatments and smashing of vehicles( which I >>> don't condone). When have we lost the passion and determination to uphold >>> the law and respect rights. Would it in retrospect maybe point to that the >>> police provoked the violent reaction. Comrades kindly guide and maybe let's >>> escalate the possible role of the other non transformed, anti worker >>> policemen and women who protect capital by trumping the workers especially >>> the poor. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 17 Oct 2012, at 5:09 PM, Sibusiso Mchunu <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> My dearest Communist comrades >>>> >>>> YCL for the past few months and continue to hold Bua-Thursday, and i have >>>> been fortunate that i have attended a few of these Bua-Thursday debates. i >>>> must be quick to point out that Bua-Thursday came at the right time >>>> whereby it encourage debate among fellow comrades. it is the best >>>> initiative and i hope i will not loose momentum and will continue beyond >>>> Mangaung until possible we realise Socialism in our life time. >>>> >>>> I must also in the spirit of polemic and being comradely to the YCL, that >>>> these debate are styled in a Teacher-Student relationship, whereby a >>>> Speaker (whoever it may be) comes and address and then followed up with >>>> questions from the floor (like students in class asking a teacher) and the >>>> Speaker respond. at the end everybody goes home. >>>> >>>> I think this approach of a Student-Teacher relationship fails to add value >>>> and content of the debate, and i will urge the YCL that maybe they should >>>> look at other methods of debating, so that a Speaker talk-less and both >>>> the Speaker and the comrades elevate the debate to have content and >>>> direction with our understanding of the direction we are taking to realise >>>> Socialism in our lifetime. >>>> >>>> I will propose to YCL, that they join forces with the Communist University >>>> [CU] whereby comrades come to the CU to learn as much as possible on >>>> classic and other Marxism-Leninism documents and put them into practice on >>>> Bua-Thursday, so that even the clarity-seeking question can be located >>>> within logical Scientific of Communism, so that we can be in a position to >>>> respond meaningful to challenges that faces us all. >>>> >>>> I think CU is better placed and last SACP Congress resolved on Political >>>> education, and CU provide the theoretical part of Political Education as >>>> resolved by the Congress and YCL Bua-Thursday gives the practical aspect >>>> of the political and a Bigger school whereby the application is tested >>>> Scientifically with engagement with Speakers from the Bua-Thursday. >>>> >>>> As of now i think YCL and CU are better placed to produce sound leaders >>>> through both YCL and CU complementing each other, rather than reinventing >>>> the wheel. >>>> >>>> I am sure the Vice Chancellor of the CU will be happy to be part of >>>> assisting uFasimba as we all look forward to produce comrades for SACP who >>>> are well rounded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sibusiso Mchunu >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You are subscribed. 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