Cde I find your defense not to criticize as problematic and conflicting/contradictory. I don't know perhaps you have a set of programmatic criticisms that propels you to adjudicate if ones'criticism is constructive or not.
Everyone is entitled to opinions and you'll be unfair to classify such as being constructive or non-constructive. If that is the case, you then have to provide us with your set of programmatic constructive criticism so that we can draw our critiques form them - maybe that'll be fair to you and all those who think like you do. Most people, including senior ANC members and Msholozi will also, like yourself, indicate that there are investigations and people should wait for the outcome. Problem is; now and then or hear and there Cde President will say something on the issue, at Parliament and media briefings, and in words, form his mouth, will say a lot of contradictions and unclear statements. Criticisms comes from this, even himself, he tries to talk some sense out of the situation and because he is unclear, questions follow. I think he should be the 1st one not comment or say anything pending the outcome of the investigations. You'll then not see any "constructive" or "non-constructive" criticisms. I promise you, if Mr President will stop commenting on the matter, and you still find people putting their opinions, I'll support you when calling their criticism unconstructive. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Palesa Motshoene < [email protected]> wrote: > There is nothing wrong in criticism, but it needs to be constructive and > we know when it comes to the President it hasn't been but rather vile. > > We still don't know what the truth and fact is as you state unless you > know something that we don't; the only supposed truth or fact we know > is one that the media is feeding us. > > So I propose that we wait for the investigations of the matter to be > resolved and be presented to us(public), then you will be in a better place > to objectively criticize him on the basis of the truth/fact! > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:16 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Some people in this forum lack realistic reasoning as well as an >> understanding that even God sometimes does get criticized and that is >> normal and should be allowed, but what scares me here is you dare criticize >> or there point an error in Zuma you will definitely be silenced without a >> doubt. >> >> Zuma is our president and he is not perfect, he does not only deserve >> praise alone but also criticism. >> >> Stop being blind to the truth also so biased that you even forget what >> you are trying to reason out! >> >> Allow fact and truth to prevail without trying to nullify it! >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone. >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *[email protected] >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Sun, 25 Nov 2012 06:55:56 +0000 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ZUMA"S NEIGHBOUR >> >> So what if that is his neighbour? Some of you live in suburbs where in >> your backyards are shacks. Who takes pictures of your neighbours? >> >> Some of us have tolerated fools like you for far too long. People who >> cannot discuss or argue without assasinating the character of our >> president. >> >> If one has got nothing good to say about president general Zuma they must >> shut up! >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *Njabulo <[email protected]> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Mon, 26 Nov 2012 08:42:02 +0200 >> *To: *[email protected]<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ZUMA"S NEIGHBOUR >> >> Comrades >> >> Since when am i responsible for my neigbours house.... Just because >> others stay in urban areas with white monopoly capitalists we dont ask >> about their neigbours those who stay in rural areas are crusified they >> should now rebuild their neighbours house. >> >> So much hate for Zuma can never be good for the ANC >> >> Njabulo "Mzimela" Nzuza >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 26 Nov 2012, at 8:36 AM, "Sikhumbuzo P. Gumbi" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> This spokesperson got the problem he act like DA now, we can’t have >> opposition within our movement >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [ >> mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *Klaas Nono Mabunda >> *Sent:* 26 November 2012 08:01 >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ZUMA"S NEIGHBOUR >> >> >> >> Comrade Vusi, >> >> The thing with you is that you don't know the cruelty that can come out >> of this group, especially at the time President Zuma is seen to be >> criticised. >> >> This is a Zuma Defence Force, I beg you not to push Domza bad side, he 'l >> lash you & put you under moderation. >> >> Nonetheless, its very bad to observe events around Nkandla, but I hope >> the neighbours are on the plan for new houses in the next financial year, >> because where they are situated supposes to be his Swimming Pool. >> >> I hope they aren't Forces of Change! >> >> . >> . >> Klaas Nono Mabunda >> ANCYL Limpopo Provincial Spokesperson >> 0827304331 >> 0867182705 (fax) >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Vusi Makamu" <[email protected]> >> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> >> *Date: *Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:15:11 +0200 >> >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> >> *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] ZUMA"S NEIGHBOUR >> >> >> >> Morning friends just to provoke debate see the attached picture >> >> >> >> >> >> Mr Vusi Makamu >> >> Legal Administration Officer >> >> Mpumalanga Prov Govt >> >> Dept of Economic Development, >> >> Environment and Tourism >> >> Private bag x 11215 >> >> Nelspruit >> >> Tel 013 7664111 >> >> Cell 076 737 4062 >> >> Fax 086 6228678 >> >> >> >> This message and any attachments relating to official business of the >> Mpumalanga >> Provincial Government (MPG) is proprietary to the MPG and intended for >> the original addressee only. 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