Maybe I am in the wrong forum cadre, I appreciate you being a "black man" and having a company that's all and good you,
In thought this was a discussion of those committed to socialism cum- communism and i think the principles of your project are in conflict which all that, you have collapsed into the current system which we are working to bring down, the system which is perpetuating in equalities in the world, But maybe i am wrong, I'm not sure you now with you and your company!! On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Tell me, what's wrong with a young black man trying to promote his > company? For the record I don't even look at tenders. I pitch and do proper > marketing of my company. I am not a tenderize. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * [email protected] > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Thu, 9 May 2013 11:40:26 +0000 > *To: *[email protected]<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA Statement on the Quarterly Labour > Force Survey > > Lol > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Lungisa Mzizana <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Thu, 9 May 2013 13:13:21 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA Statement on the Quarterly Labour > Force Survey > > Look somewhere else cadre, go chase databases, not here!! Maybe somewhere > else. Tyhini madoda > > This is not even a co-operative. > > We are not Tender brokers. > > Thank You Very Much. > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> Good day comrades. >> Please find attached company profile of Manelise Consultants cc. Manelise >> Consultants cc is an SMME based in Durban KZN in the Shanduka >> Blackumbrellas Pre-incubation please assist with clients comrdes >> >> Regards >> Thami Ngcobo >> 0712860315 >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Dineo Sitole <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Thu, 9 May 2013 12:59:15 +0200 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] YCLSA Statement on the Quarterly >> Labour Force Survey >> >> >> This is a good statement , one actually tackling great issues. One thing >> that we can not separate from our agende is the dact that although more >> woman access education many still do not get into the labour market. >> Although the YCL is not a trade union nor is our main goal the job creation >> for greater exploitation, it is still imperative that we look at the >> conditions of workers, those of female workers, and the issues of why they >> are unable to get into the job market. >> >> >> The unemployment rate for women remained higher than the national average >> between Q1:2008 and Q1:2013. The largest difference in unemployment rates >> between men and women was observed in Q2:2008 (7,1 percentage points), >> while the smallest difference was realised in Q4:2009 (3,5 percentage >> points). >> >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Khaya Xaba <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> *YCLSA Press Statement* >>> >>> >>> >>> April 9, 2013 >>> >>> >>> >>> *YCLSA Statement on the Quarterly Labour Force Survey* >>> >>> >>> >>> The Young Communist League of South Africa [uFasimba] notes with concern >>> the quarterly labour force survey released on May 6, 2013. The Survey >>> indicates that more than 100 000 South Africans lost their jobs with the >>> first three months of this year. This has meant that the unofficial >>> unemployment rate is now 25.2% which translates to 4.6 million South >>> Africans of the work force who are unemployed. The survey also indicates >>> that more than 1 100 jobs are lost every day. >>> >>> >>> >>> Stats SA's official definition of unemployment is someone aged between >>> 15 and 64 without work in the week preceding the interview, but who looks >>> for work and is available to take up employment or open a business. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the expanded definition of unemployment, which includes people who >>> have stopped looking for work, the rate was 36.7% in the first quarter of >>> 2013, the highest since 2008. >>> >>> >>> >>> The South African economy lost around one million jobs during the >>> recession. It gained 646 000 jobs since the lowest level of employment in >>> the third quarter of 2010 (12.9 million). However, at 13.6 million, >>> employment in the first quarter of 2013 was still lower than the 14 million >>> before the recession. >>> >>> >>> >>> The QLFS is a household-based sample survey conducted by Stats SA and >>> covers the labour market activities of people aged 15 to 64. The YCLSA >>> call on Stats SA to revisit the age category and change it to, 18 to 64. The >>> YCLSA does not want to see 15 to 18 year olds looking for employment; the >>> youth in this age category should be in school busy working towards >>> obtaining their matric and should therefore not be considered as part of >>> the job seeking or unemployed market. >>> >>> >>> >>> The job crisis in the country has worsened. Some of the industries >>> within the country that are in distress are the agricultural and mining >>> industry. Noting what happened during the farm workers minimum wage strike >>> in the Western Cape and the Marikana shootings that took place in North >>> West. >>> >>> >>> >>> Many people have been given up hope of finding employment. This could >>> lead to the increase of social ills within communities. Stats SA indicates >>> that discourage workers increased by 73 000 to 2.3 million people between >>> the fourth quarter of 2012 and the first quarter of 2013. >>> >>> >>> >>> Based on the information above released by Stats SA’s Quarterly Labour >>> Force Survey the YCLSA believes that the National Development Plan (NDP), >>> which is the country’s long term development plan, must play a pivotal role >>> in creating more job opportunities for the unemployed. Therefore a >>> revolutionary NDP is of utmost importance. >>> >>> >>> >>> This brings into question the composition and modus operandi of the >>> National Planning Commission (NPC) which must be re-looked at anew, >>> re-engineered and re-designed to reflect the class majority of our people >>> and their conditions of life. >>> >>> >>> >>> This must ensure that both the planning processes and the planning >>> outcomes are rooted and grounded where an overwhelming majority of our >>> people are, in the townships, in the urban semi-peripheries and >>> peripheries, in squatter settlements, in rural areas and villages, deep >>> down in the body of the earth in the mines, in shops, factories and on the >>> roads without necessarily excluding others elsewhere. >>> >>> >>> >>> The virtual consultation that the NPC engaged in for example, >>> notwithstanding that it was extensive, excluded an overwhelming majority of >>> our people. Planning processes must be preceded by and include capacity >>> building so that the people are included meaningfully instead of being >>> included in a terrain where they are excluded because of capacity >>> constraints. >>> >>> >>> >>> In view of the conclusion that the Party reached in its assessment, i.e. >>> our first decade of democracy benefited the capitalist class the most in >>> economic terms despite the many advances that the working class achieved >>> and therefore that this, going forward, must as stated above challenged, we >>> must as part of the working class contribute in planning processes, >>> influence and impact on the plans developed as well as in the subsequent >>> changes that are required of those plans. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the NDP the capability approach is subordinated or located in the >>> growth school of thought, which is where one of the structural faults lies. >>> This neoliberal growth school of thought argues that employment, resources >>> with which to expand access to education and health care, to reduce >>> inequality and poverty, and to achieve other development goals, trickledown >>> from growth. >>> >>> >>> >>> Therefore it follows that chasing a set growth target (e.g. 5.2% annual >>> growth rate in average over a set period of time, say by 2030) is the >>> overriding economic policy objective to which all else are subordinated or >>> will result. As such, the action plan that is required is to identify >>> constraints to growth and address them. About this ideology, which found >>> its way in the 2013 state of the nation address and as usual in the budget >>> speech, the SACP had the following to say: >>> >>> >>> >>> *"Chasing growth rates as a panacea to our problems has and will never >>> be an appropriate response to our challenges. Similarly the myth that there >>> are legislative and other bottlenecks to be unlocked in** favour** of >>> business must be carefully examined. It seems to us that all business wants >>> are concessions without any commitments on its part to** realise** our >>> goals of tackling unemployment, poverty and inequality. The SACP will >>> strongly resist all attempts by business to try and blackmail us into >>> succumbing to their narrow concerns about profits without telling us about >>> their own contributions."* (15 February 2013) >>> >>> >>> >>> The NDP recognises the New Growth Path (NGP) as one of the policy >>> frameworks that will continue to inform government's economic policy >>> approach. However, the NDP reconstructs and co-opts the NGP in the >>> neoliberal growth school of thought, which is actually an antithesis of the >>> basic philosophy of and the experiences that led to the development of the >>> concept of NGP. >>> >>> >>> >>> The NGP was developed following the experiences of what is now commonly >>> known as a jobless growth. Although it has some contradictions, by and >>> large the NGP seeks to alter the quality and character of growth. Basically >>> for the NGP either growth should result from employment creation and decent >>> work or employment creation and decent work should be the drivers of >>> growth. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is important to recognise that given her history as a victim of >>> colonialism and apartheid, South Africa and her economy require >>> transformation and development, not just growth. Neither will she succeed >>> in achieving prosperity on the basis of transformation and development that >>> are subordinated to growth. In other words, growth as measured in Gross >>> Domestic Product (GDP) in the South African context will not result in the >>> strategic goals that the national democratic revolution seeks to achieve. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is also important to recall from South Africa's experience of a >>> jobless growth that the produce of the GDP are not necessarily shared and >>> distributed equitably. This same experience has also shown that growth can >>> occur while the share of the working class in the national income falls and >>> profits rise for the capitalist class to heap up and to accumulate capital. >>> >>> >>> >>> For example, in other words when it is said that South Africa became one >>> of the world's leading middle income countries in inequalities it is partly >>> because the share of the working class in the national income declined >>> while that of the capitalist class increased. >>> >>> >>> >>> In essence growth in the context was and remained a capitalist growth. >>> The reason why the growth school of thought has the support of the >>> capitalists is because it is essentially capitalist growth in character >>> that is talked about. >>> >>> >>> >>> The YCLSA is calling for a review of the NDP’s main strategy for job >>> creation to emphasise industrialisation of the country. The Industrial >>> Policy Action Plan (IPAP) guides the re-industrialisation of the South >>> African economy and should be part of the NDP. We also call for the review >>> of the composition of the National Planning Commission. The YCLSA wants to >>> see the majority of the NPC composed of senior government officials. >>> >>> >>> >>> The struggle for a better life for all continues as we need to fight the >>> triple challenges of poverty, unemployment and inequality. >>> >>> >>> >>> Issued by YCLSA Head Office >>> >>> >>> >>> For more information contact: >>> >>> >>> >>> Khaya Xaba >>> >>> >>> >>> YCLSA National Spokesperson >>> >>> >>> >>> Cell: 071 115 4619 >>> >>> >>> >>> @YCLSA >>> >>> >>> >>> @chedetachment >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. 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