Comrade Stalin,
The protocol in the Alliance is that we must call each other and make each other aware about the statements that we issue about one another especially on allegations. Secondly, before we respond to what is reported in the media we first contact each other – and often clarity is given and the responses are nuanced differently. The SACP and ANC media departments have managed this very well. However, very recently we have been observing negatively charged statements which amount to attacks on the SACP and its leaders, especially, if we are to be open, from the ANCYL. Please note that you have not seen any statement from the SACP dedicated at responding to these new trend. This is not permanent, however. But we (including you) need to notice the change of tone in the ANCYL statements with words such as “we request”. This shows that there are engagements and there is an attempt to comply. I’m saying this of course not wishing away the undertones and what the journalists who contact us for enquiries say they are being told. Sometimes we are unfortunately compelled to respond to such things but we resist to issue statements. Let us be frank comrades, and honest as well. There are people and organisations who have raised their with for the next president to be a woman. Some of them even went to say, on all our behalf, that we were ready. I’m not talking about the pre-Polokwane period. I’m talking about the post-Mangaung period. As a matter of fact, there is a resolution that has publicly been canvased in this regard. When it marched to the Union Buildings one of the things the ANCWL said “in defence” of the President is that there were people undermining him for “his view” on the next president being a woman. The activity was by the way also used to further that view as the view of the ANCWL. If you are to unite the movement, you must be consistent. That’s the point. Immediately you become selective you will be veering towards factionalism and not acting factionally yourself. There are just certain pronouncements that are made from within our movement that are just divisive. The last time there are people who organised a march to a house of our leader was when the DA organised people to Nkandla. What did we do? We closed ranks and mobilised as the whole alliance and went there to defend. Who had known that there will be inconsistency, calling for a march to a house of a member of the ANC NEC and NWC who is the General Secretary of the SACP. In continued inconsistent leadership entrenches in our movement it will be very difficult to achieve unity. We must all recognise that we need each other. We need bold leadership that calls order. There are just so many wrong things that have been done in the name of the President Comrade Jacob Zuma for instance. We all came out in defence, against name dropping. And this things, or at least some of them, did not stop up to this day. This is one of the things that still needs to be dealt with. If consistency is to apply, the ANCYL statement should be regarded as the authority in how to deal with this matter? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mangaliso Stalin Khonza Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:51 PM To: yclsa-eom-forum <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Protests in KZN - ANCYL Statement This is plain unfortunate events and do not warrant the importance and primacy we place on them. What happened to internal engagements? After all, HQ of all these organisations are in Johannesburg and they all have contacts of each other and can fly to meet and engage. Who benefits from these contact media attacks to and from except the revolutionary alliance that looks public credibility On 17 Nov 2015 17:41, "Takalani Mmbengeni" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: This is very important issues to note Comrade Josopu, maybe I must refrain from the point you are noting. But in as much as I do that, it remains clear that we are not shutting the fact that the ANCYL does not know about itself been espoused to the Premier League. Maybe I must vehemently condemn the souring of the division which is appearing in majority led by Members of the National Executive Committee of the ANCYL including a public announcements that we get from the communication officer of the Youth League. It shall be noted that we are bona fide members of the ANCYL and we must not be pushed or forced to accept unruliness and disrespect to individual members by those in the helm of leadership On 17 Nov 2015 17:05, "tmjosopu" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Also people MUST stop calling the ANCYL a product of the "Premier League" that is non-existent and we're told that the Chairperson is in Nkandla, the ANCYL is expected to keep quite when its attacked. -------- Original message -------- From: Palesa Motshoene <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date:11/17/2015 4:29 PM (GMT+02:00) To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Protests in KZN - ANCYL Statement This is a very, very unfortunate statement from the ANCYL, they must also take their own advice by engaging alliance partners if they really care about this movement, because the only thing we have witnessed from them since day 1 is to ATTACK and to DEFEND, this statement is not assisting anything. On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Takalani Mmbengeni <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I condemn the unti-unity activities but some reprimands are purely opportunistic and slanderous to say the least. The Youth League to reprimand the Premier of KZN to stop people marching against the organisation it amount to a personal attack to the Premier of the Province. The fact that people are marching against the organisational processes it does not make an individual to take a responsibility for the actions he is not physically taking part of. Not so long we have learned about the Premier League just in the eve of the ANCYL National Congress and the so called Premier League is said to be behind President Zuma. We have not heard a call by the Youth League that is said to be the product of the same Premier League asking the President of the Country cautioning people not to use his name to sour division in the organisation. This is a pure absurdity by the Youth League to elevate their faction by condemning the other. It must be put categorical clear that factionalism is a foreign tendency within the ANC and the call to fight against it shall not be opportunistically usede to advantage one faction against the other. On 17 Nov 2015 13:32, "VC" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: ANCYL Statement, 17 November 2015 Protests in KZN Uvuk'ayibambe is concerned with the state of affairs of the ANC particularly after Conferences of the ANCYL in different levels. The ANCYL calls on all members of the ANCYL to disassociate themselves from the continuous mass demonstration directed towards the ANC Offices. The ANCYL calls on all discipline members of the league to stop participating in activities that seek to damage the name of the ANC and to stop singing divisive songs. We call on the former ANC KZN Chairperson and current Premier of KwaZulu Natal Comrade Senzo Mchunu to come out and condemn those that are marching in his name. We call on him to take proactive measures in ensuring that he discourages all those that are engaged in mass protest using his name. For if he does not do this it might create or affirm the impression that they do this sent and instructed by him. We want to encourage all those that are dissatisfied about the outcome of the KZN ANC Conference to continue to write letters to relevant structures and await the response. The mass demonstration does not in any way affect or influence the outcomes of appeals in the movement the only thing that affect and influence outcomes is the content of the appeal. After the ANC as organization will leave beyond those that are leaders. We say this for we will inherit the ANC and we do not want to inherit an organization that is amassed with problems beyond reproach. We call on all members of the movement to desist from the discussion of leadership at national level for this matter is closed. We call on those that have concern about the ANC 2017 Conference to raise these matters in structures of the organisation. We want to encourage all alliance partners to raise concerns inside structures of the alliance and refrain from passing comments that might create space for public spat amongst leaders and structures of the movement for that will be playing into the hands of the enemy. We equally note the attacks that the ANC has suffered from one of its alliance partner over the weekend when the SACP had its Provincial General Council. We request that we desist from saying bad things about it each other in our meetings and platform for that might create animosity amongst alliance component. We want to say to the SACP and YCLSA the doors for engagement are opened for any matters. We call on them to stop saying that they are tired of defending the President of the ANC on Nkandla and on the 4 billion jet which has not been bought by the state. We the ANCYL are capable of defending our own leadership. We have never outsourced that responsibility and we will never do so. We are combat ready to defend our leadership at night and during the day. We have never invited anyone to defend the leadership of the ANC. We have always understood this to be a responsibility of those that find a need to do so those that are tired can they step aside we will continue with the journey, tinder ledlela esihambayo. We request that the leadership of the SACP stops saying the President of the ANC is this "men". We as the youth of the ANC do not take kind to such remarks. We call on the YCL leadership to stop saying the Chairperson of the Premier League stays in Nkandla for the insulation of such remarks will not allow us to keep quite. 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