Thanks Cde Alex.
We have not yet seen the statement of the COSATU KZN PEC. After we see it, we will see how the newspapers cover it. SADTU also has its problems with media. It is almost exactly two years since the accusation, not backed by evidence, that teaching posts were being sold, and smearing SADTU over it. That was by Paddy Harper in the City Press. We have not had any apology yet. Thanks for posting sometimes. I appreciate it and I understand that you can’t do it all the time. I wish that the Party will say, in relation to Freedom Day, that it belongs fully to the liberation movement of Hani and Tambo. Others can share, if they want to, and we want them to share; but what they cannot do is to set up as “South Africa” versus the liberation movement, in an attempt to exclude the ANC and the Party. That will be an intolerable abomination. Zwelinzima Vavi has said that there will be "no doorkeeper" at his anti-ANC meeting on Saturday. That means he is already fully in bed with the De Klerk-ists and the DA. VC From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Mohubetswane Mogale Mashilo Sent: 15 April 2016 16:12 To: Dominic Tweedie Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Karima Brown exposes the existence of a spy network in COSATU... Thanks Cde VC, "... concrete conditions" of course that's what I meant. I agree with you on several of the points you made but of course and as you might expect not entirely on everything. We cannot for instance act like the media that we criticise. We must lead by example. Every week we engage with media practioners (as in mainstream media) and representatives about the way they misrepresent our views. We give them feedback, even though we know that some of them are doing the wrong things that they are doing deliberately. I believe you might have seen the statement we released this week about the media coverage agenda pushed by Naspers' Media24 and concentrated in the Afrikaans title the Rapport. They were found guilty of breaking the Press Code by publishing incorrect information that adversely affected the reputation of our GS. The Rapport was ordered to apologise. On the last day of the last SACP Central Committee we issued a statement condemning a similar report by another Media24 title the City Press. The newspaper apologised with acceptable prominence a week later, in its next issue voluntarily - i.e. before the matter could be referred to the Press Ombudsman. They apologised given the evidence that was brought before them contrary to the contents of their story, and for not giving the affected parties opportunity to exercise their right of reply (some of whom were wrongfully attributed to be SACP members) The SACP had condemned a much earlier report by the Rapport - which was also published in the City Press and another Media24 outlet the online platform News24. When a person says "either... for or against..." that person is not only saying for or only against - s/he is exactly for or against without taking sites as it clearly appears in what Karima said in her reply. These are the things we are dealing with when facts about what we are saying for example are misrepresented by the media, let alone completely new things that are atribbuted to us whereas we have nothing to do with them. Please see the Mail and Guardian. The SACP PB released a statement shortly after the Constitutional Court ruling on Nkdandla. What the statement says is that the ruling and President's apology that followed a day after should be seen at the beginning of a prosess of decisive self-introspection and action including self-correction. Something we didn't say, the Mails and Guardian says this implied that Zuma must go. This morning I handled a similar issue about The Star which we are going to bring to their attention in writing on Monday, the misrepresentation of Cde Limpho Hani. They wrote she said Janusz Walus was entitled to parole. This is sure contrary to the battle she's been fighting. What she said is that parole is not a right but a privilege that Walus doesn't deserve as an unrepentant and unremorseful murderer who killed her husband our General Secretary and still has not regard to the enormity of his crime. As revolutionaries we must not take our cue from the wrong things that some in the media are doing. By the way, I never said the Independent is an exception in the bourgeoisie media. The Gupta media The New Age and ANN7 for example had to be condemned by the NEC of the ANC at its last meeting for the divisive role it is playing in our movement. I hope by one exception you are not referring to them! I can show you our written responses to The New Age media and give you copies of what they said thereafter. Pathetic, they simply chopped our sentences in a surgery and co-opted what we said in their advance and defence of the Gupta's interests. They ignored everything, in this example, evereything with we said about the Guptas. If that is the other or both sides it is really bad. I completely agree with you about the responsibility we all have about posting statements in the CU. If you noticed once I realised that SACP statements were not all posted I did post them and at times shared other pieces which I think are good obtained from elsewhere. Cde A Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Dominic Tweedie Sent: Friday, 15 April 2016 15:19 To: [email protected] Reply To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Karima Brown exposes the existence of a spy network in COSATU... Thanks for the contribution Cde Alex. It’s hard not to notice that the South African bourgeois media, with only one exception, are pushing for one side. The exception among our media in this case is not the Independent Group, as anyone could have seen last Sunday. That was the first time I have ever seen red headlines on regime-change stories, or on any other stories, in South Africa. It was ridiculous, in my opinion. When newspapers try to bully their readers, they should be laughed at. “Concrete analysis of the concrete situation” is what Lenin said, and not “concrete reality”. This is a philosophically-important distinction. Analysis becomes real when it is rational. At the empirical level it is not yet rational. Lenin was making a precise philosophical reference, in which the word “concrete” corresponds to “organic”, and not to “tangible”; and where there is a movement, from the situation or data, via analysis, to synthesis, knowledge, and truth. The actual situation of the CU is that the same courses are running as before. I think this will be the third year without any new courses, and there is no plan or intention to create any new ten-part courses at present. New work that we have is in the way of historical material, such as the Chris Hani <https://studycircle.wikispaces.com/6+CU+Chris+Hani+Archive?responseToken=0ee021224a23fdcf395c60e1d38fe5de7> and Steve Biko <https://studycircle.wikispaces.com/7+CU+Steve+Biko+Archive> archives created over the last month, and the anti-privatisation-of-education archive, People’s Education for People’s Power <https://counter-summit.wikispaces.com/Index> , building since January, with about 60 documents, and a new lot waiting to be put up. My re-posts of statements and articles to the CU have increased to what I consider is a saturation point, i.e. there cannot be a larger number of them, at least from me, in this medium. These are arms-length original documents. I am formatting and sending about ten a day. I don’t think people can easily cope with more than that. The number of potentially usable statements and articles, however, continues to increase. This means that the selection process gets more drastic. It can’t be helped. More and more material is necessarily left “on the cutting-room floor”. This problem would be less if more comrades took it upon themselves to post such statements and articles. Co-operative editing is possible on the Internet, but experience so far tells us that rather few people are ready and willing to do it. Hence people who could post material direct, continue to send it to me for posting, creating a bottleneck. I wish people would take into account that I still have a full-time job, which is quite a hectic job for that matter. Perhaps it is time to show the diagram of distributed networking once again. A centralised or a decentralised network has capacity limited to that of a single node. But a distributed network has sufficient capacity at any size. In other words, a distributed network is infinitely scalable. DistributiveLearningNetworkModels_Combined.jpg Which brings me to your “worries”, Cde Alex. The Communist University is not defined by the opinions of any one person, Cde Alex. In the CU, no-one is right and no-one is wrong. We do not seek “closure”. We do not resolve. We do not have a “line”. We do not indoctrinate. Ours is a Freirean critical pedagogy, of dialogue. It can’t be the case that in “interesting times” we become less vocal, share less, run and hide. Surely, not. We are all present as ourselves, with no exceptions. To the extent that there is moderation, it is only to preserve the forum from destruction. “Marxism-Leninism” must strive no less hard than any other view. Probably we do favour it, although it is strong enough and needs no mollycoddling. The methodology here has always been to offer original texts – primary sources – and to open up space for discussion of such documents. This continues to be the case, no more or less than it was for the last 13 years. Generalised discontent with the Communist University therefore can’t stick, Cde Alex. The remedy is to join in the criticism of a document, and make it better. Thanks for making the opportunity to mention some of these things. VC From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Mohubetswane Mogale Mashilo Sent: 15 April 2016 11:42 To: VC; [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Karima Brown exposes the existence of a spy network in COSATU... Is it not better to know from the hourse's mouth who the "chaps" are, just as we expect others to give us equal opportunity to respond on matters or utterances affecting us in terms of the golden rules of the principle of audi alteram partem. I also notice that Brown says "either... for or against" - which is what has been happening anyway from different quarters. I would agree with VC had Brown only said against. I think some of us have found it conveniently easy to label others "regime changers" to a point where the notion of regime change will be discredited because of the difficulty some of us are creating for people to identify clearly who is involved in the agenda. I'm worried VC that of recent a number of your utterances in this forum are abstract and detached from what Lenin called a concrete analysis of concrete reality. I'm struggling at times to locate what is Marxism-Leninism in some of your posts. In fact I find them worrying in the broader scheme of things. I wonder if anybody has raised this with you. I'm raising this openly, in the same way as you have been offering us your useful criticisms of the Party statements, useful because we are able to learn other things that we would not have learnt. This is Communist University. Next time we must look at the statements and articles that are profiled most in this forum and compare this to the Communist Party's. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: VC Sent: Friday, 15 April 2016 08:26 To: [email protected] Reply To: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Karima Brown exposes the existence of a spy network in COSATU... Independent Group's Executive Editor instructs Group Labour Editor to activate her informers in COSATU. _____ Karima Brown Makes a Mistake Message from Karima Brown to Amy Musgrave, revealing informers, accidentally goes out on COSATU Distribution list “Amy in the current climate let your chaps watch this. They could come out either batting for or against JZ.” Karima Brown is the Executive Editor of Independent Newspapers. Amy Musgrave is the Group Labour Editor of Independent Newspapers. This morning at 07h24 Karima Brown sent an instruction to Amy Musgrave to “let your chaps watch” the outcome of the COSATU KZN Provincial Executive meeting. See the message reproduced below. Karima Brown clicked “Reply” instead of “Forward”, and the secret message consequently went to thousands of people. Who are Amy’s “chaps”? Amy’s “chaps” are Amy Musgrave’s spies in COSATU. They are the informers who are feeding the anti-government media and its regime-change agenda. Karima Brown’s mistake this morning has exposed the workings of the anti-liberation-movement press, where, as usual, ultra-leftists work hand-in-glove with spies, right-wing monopoly capital, and international regime-change artists. Independent Newspapers’ “colour revolution” agenda The Group’s newspapers include the Star, Daily News and Sunday Independent. Last Sunday’s Independent was so frantic for regime-change that it printed its anti-ANC headlines in red on several pages. No Paseran! VC: Proudly defending the revolution! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Karima <[email protected]> Date: 15 April 2016 at 07:24 Subject: Re: [COSATU Press] COSATU KwaZulu-Natal holds its PEC Media Briefing in Durban tomorrow To: [email protected] Cc: COSATU Press Releases <[email protected]>, Amy Musgrave <[email protected]>, Theto Mahlakoana <[email protected]> Amy in the current climate let your chaps watch this. They could come out either batting for or against JZ. Sent from my iPhone On 14 Apr 2016, at 3:43 PM, Ntai Norman <[email protected]> wrote: Media Alert COSATU KwaZulu-Natal holds its PEC Media Briefing in Durban tomorrow 14 April 2016 COSATU in KwaZulu Natal had its Provincial Executive Committee meeting on the 12th and 13th April 2016, which discussed a number of political, organizational and socio economic issues. The KZN PEC agreed on a number of campaigns COSATU will be waging moving forward, in advancement of the struggle of workers and the poorer. 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