On May 29, 2006, at 23:26, John Tropea wrote:

> Your post from a while back illustrates fielded search, but when I 
> search
> eg, tag:blogs I get hits from bookmarks that haven't got the tag
> "blogs"...isn't this an alternative instead of using the tag cloud.

It's an alternative in the same way a sledgehammer is an alternative 
to a regular one.  You can still drive nails with it, but onlookers 
might consider it an excessive use of force. :)

I skimmed your blog posts, so I know you're aware that search terms 
are stemmed.  So you know that "tag:blogs" will also return bookmarks 
tagged "blog" (among other bloggish things).  You can append a period 
to search terms you don't want stemmed: "tag:blogs." gets you 
bookmarks that are tagged "blogs".  Period.  By the way, the quotes 
are just a typographical convention and not part of the search queries.

Even searching with "tag:blogs.", you will still see things like

   Engadget save this
   to gadgets tech blog technology news ... saved by 7661 other people

Even though "blogs" is not displayed in the summary, I can guarantee 
that some of the 7661 people bookmarking it have tagged it so.

> And then what about searching within a tag
> eg. tag:blogs technorati (this just does an + search)

Technically it's equivalent to "tag:blogs AND technorati".  In 
English: Find bookmarks with tags which, when stemmed, match the 
stemmed version of "blogs", and which have "technorati" (or a stemmed 
form of it) anywhere in the description, notes, or tags.

> Your post also explains boolean searching, does this apply for tags:
>
> eg. tag:blog NOT tag:search
> I'd also like to browse this way just like you can add a tag when 
> browsing

Yes, this works.

> you can do tag:blog AND tag:search...more easily tag:blog search 
> (but this
> still returns noisy results)

I think your results are "noisy" because "tag:blog search" is not 
equivalent to "tag:blog tag:search".  Also there's the stemming going 
on.  It seems like you'd prefer "tag:blog. tag:search.".

> So I'd love to first search for my tags, and then refine the 
> results with a
> search (or maybe I can do this is the one long search query)

Go with the search query.  You can't combine /tag/blogs with a full-
text search.

Details are subject to change.  This *is* "Web 2.0" after all. :)

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