On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:59:46 -0500 Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray, > > It's unlikely you will ever be able to boot YDL on an OldWorld mac > *directly* from CD. You can't do that now with 3.0 or 3.0.1. It's > technically possible to build a bootable Linux CD for OldWorld > machines, but there are licensing issues that make it legally > difficult. So I'll venture to predict that you'll never see such a > thing from TeraSoft, or most likely any other Linux distributor. > > That said, it's not difficult to get Linux running on OldWorld Mac > hardware. The recommended (by me -- others are of different religions) > way is with a small MacOS-9 (or MacOS-8) partition and the "BootX" > extension. Email me if you need instructions on how to do this. > > As far as getting YDL 4.0 running on OldWorld machines: As I > understand it, the issue is that the kernel and initial-ramdisk on the > 4.0 CD are missing one or more drivers necessary for OW Macs. There > has been some work by folks on this list to compile a kernel&modules > with the necessary stuff, but I'm not sure what degree of success > they've had. Anybody want to comment? > > Rick > > PS: It seems likely that the YDL4.0 installer is unaware of the OW > hardware quirks and may have problems with it as well. I seem to > recall that the installer gave the TerraSoft folks fits when they were > developing 4.0, so it's a safe bet that it will take a bit of work to > get it to play nice on an OW machine. Again, anybody want to comment > on this? > > > > On Jan 30, 2005, at 5:09 AM, R. Hirschfeld wrote: > > > For anyone from TerraSoft on the list, will security updates and the > > like be backported to YDL 3.0.1 or has support for that version > > essentially stopped? > > > > I have an Old World machine (Wallstreet PowerBook) and I'm try to > > decide whether to stick with YDL (which I'd prefer) or switch to > > another distribution. > > > > Alternatively I can hold out until YDL 4.1 (or 4.0.1) is released on > > CD if it will include a kernel that will run on an Old World machine > > (my understanding--please correct me if I'm wrong--is that 4.0 does > > not but that it is relatively easy to include this). I realize that > > TerraSoft has dropped official support for Old World machines but I > > can handle the setup myself if I can at least boot the installer from > > the CD using the kernel and ramdisk supplied. Will that be possible > > with the next release? Is there a tentative timeframe yet for this? > > > > Thanks, > > Ray > I don't expect TerraSoft to provide any support for OldWorld ever again :( Let me do it. There is, indeed, just a few quirks about YD4 on OldWorld macs. The first one is the 2.6.8 TSS-provided "default" kernel that will not boot such macs. But its not far as it sit at a MON> prompt, keyboard working... Eddieb provides a kernel that will boot, install and run YDL4 on OldWorld Macs. Thus its "made-for" ANS machines, it work anyway. The ramdisk.image.gz found on YDL4 CD1 is fine for what I can tell off my personal experimentations... Kernel 2.6.9 from a TSS hero DO WORK with OldWorlds <http://shiner.info/files/Yellow%20Dog%20Linux%204/kernel/vmlinux-2.6.8-1.ydl.7> Make sure you install in 'text-mode' (insert 'text' in BootX more kernel arguments) This will avoid some RAM problems some folks ran into. This time, as opposed to YLD3, You will need a /boot partition (50MB should be enough as only 16MB is currently used on mine) Lastly, you HAVE TO USE the initrd-*.img file AS A RAMDISK IN BOOTX. This mean you'll have to manually copy the file /boot/initrd-*.img onto the MacOS side of things for each kernel you wish to use. Lastly, thus I have been successfull with YDL4 on OW, among many others, some models may not go. Please, visit this thread on yellowdog-board for issues and/or success stories with YDL4 on OW macs. <http://www.yellowdog-board.com/viewtopic.php?t=339> _______________________________________________ yellowdog-general mailing list [email protected] http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try '<keywords> site:terrasoftsolutions.com'
