Ok, Jarvis!
At least we have discovered common ground!
A minor point, truly. I'm not "keen", one way or another on
recommending which VRAM he should use; I had been merely responding to
what he revealed regarding his posting.
I'm aware of the different VRAM and associated video out ports; I was
attempting to clarify that to him. Unfortunately, he revealed only a
little more information one posting at a time. Indeed, part of the
difficulty is how Benoit initially described his interest or what he
was attempting to do. So of course, anyone noticing a portion of my
communications in responding to him could reasonably assume, as you
did, that I had a particular intention or agenda.
And yes, it is difficult to penetrate sufficiently what Dual Head
actually means as TSS describes it; your description and analysis of
what they did is correct. This is why my conclusion in regards to what
Benoit was concerned about was that he was better of using OS X, -- at
least whatever he wants to do could then get done, as opposed to
engaging in the preliminary necessities (hacking Xorg, pulling teeth
from TSS, and whatever else) in preparing to begin the task itself.
Someone at TSS may be able to clarify the context of the details
further, but I doubt that whether someone is sufficiently available to
explain whatever may be necessary.
I do have hope that Benoit is up to the challenge of hacking Xorg but
he may prefer to just get the function he desires and move on to
something else that truly is his actual focus. What I am "keen" on, to
use your term, is that he achieves whatever his intention is -- as
opposed to dealing with these preliminary difficulties which frustrates
his intended focus. As all of us have a finite number of breaths, time
is not just money -- it is our lives! So we each must prioritize and
decide what is the right tool to engage upon a certain function; this
remains uniquely dependent upon what each individual is choosing to
work or focus on at the moment. For Benoit, whatever he currently has
in mind, could be done faster probably within OS X.
If of course, he does come up with a hack for Xorg to achieve his
intended goal, well then that contribution to the open source community
would be a wonderful thing! It is just, in my thinking, unfortunate
that the old phrase, "necessity is the mother of invention" seems to
apply again and again and again ... ad infinitum! Surely we are at the
point that if someone (here we are referring to any potential OS) does
something better and it is available now, my word let's go with that
and move on to that task! That kind of thinking of course is why
Microsoft is the behemoth it is, and why Unix and Linux are so sturdy.
Of course, it is up to each individual to decide what that "necessity"
is, and therein lies the difficulty as well.
Ah, the joys of human existence. Reminds me of Nietzche's work, "All
too Human", here's a link if your interested:
http://www.publicappeal.org/library/nietzsche/
Nietzsche_human_all_too_human/
At least we are close enough in accord regarding the problems which
Benoit faces. It is perhaps enough to wish him every possible success.
And yes, thanks for your retraction.
This was an interesting exchange for the beginning of the year, no?
Best wishes...
On Jan 16, 2006, at 5:41 AM, Jurvis LaSalle wrote:
I fully retract the FUD statement. It was hastily tacked on as I was
late leaving for a dinner appointment. My apologies for insinuating
that you were an Apple shill trying to get Benoit to fork out extra
dough for video hardware he may not need.
Despite your conjectures, I'm very sure the problem ultimately boils
down to what size display Benoit has. The 30" would require this
extra VRAM and dual-link dvi cable that you're so keen on. If he has
a 20" or 23" display, he should be able to get dual head working with
his current hardware and some creative editing in his xorg conf.
Also in dispute is just what TSS means by Dual head on that page and
whether or not they are stating if something is possible or just
supported. After reading this page:
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/hardware/breakdown/index.php?
hw_cat_id=4 (where they still frustratingly only refer to the 15"
model with 128MB of VRAM), I can only assume that what they call
"external video Yes*" is what I would call dual head support. Which
makes clicking on the Video Information link that much more confusing
when it says "Dual head: Probably not..." Most likely they are
referring to dual-link dvi there. Perhaps someone at terra soft can
clarify further.
I will stick with my assertion that support from TSS or not, if
Benoit has a 20" or 23" ACD, he will be able to hack it together in
time with hard work and plenty of coffee. So keep hope Derick- Benoit
may yet be able to remain booted into linux for the foreseeable future
;-D
JL
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