On 2/23/21 7:58 AM, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:12:21PM -0500, Claude Bing wrote:
>> Hello all. My organization has been working with Yocto recently, and we
>> have noticed that there are often weird errors encountered after
>> updating revisions within a release branch (e.g., 3.1.3 -> 3.1.5). Is
>> there an accepted process to merging in upstream changes?  Here is a
>> distillation of our workflow:
>>
>> * Yocto releases 3.1.0 / dunfell
>>
>> * Create a local tracking branch for the Yocto release
>>   "sample-yocto-dunfell" based on upstream 3.1.0 tag / dunfell branch.
>>   This is necessary because some of our local tooling is located in the
>>   top level directory and it is a pain to copy the files each time.
>>
>> * Create firmware with Yocto
>>
>> * Yocto releases 3.1.x
>>
>> * Merge upstream yocto-3.1.x tag into local tracking branch
>>
>> * Create firmware with Yocto
>>
>> Sometimes, after this last step, we encounter problems where patches
>> cannot be applied, or files cannot be found when bitbake tries to build
>> the recipes. We have tried deleting build/{tmp,sstate-cache} whenever we
>> merge upstream changes, but random errors still persist.  For each of
>> these packages, if we run "bitbake -c cleanall", the error goes away.
> 
> When both yocto update and your own changes are modifying the same recipes,
> then conflicts can occur.>
>> Most of the time, these recipes have not been extended in our project,
>> so they are purely meta-oe / meta packages.
> 
> If builds are failing, then your environment is breaking something.
> It might even be the BSP layers that you use>
>> Are we doing something wrong, or is there a more acceptable way to
>> handle updates?
>>
>> How tightly should meta-openembedded be tied to the core Yocto release?
> 
> I update all open source meta layers for every run of the update and also 
> resolve
> any issues by digging into details why the failure happened. I've done dunfell
> updates with several BSP layers for multiple arm64 SoC's and have not seen
> major issues.
> 
> What is useful and one of the best practices, is to clear the bitbake tmp
> directory in between builds. Depending on details, there can be some cruft 
> there
> which fails when rebuilding.

I mentioned that we remove that directory, and it does indeed solve a
lot of problems.  Not sure that it was clear from the original message,
but whenever we get a random error on the first build after the upgrade
we run a "bitbake -c cleanall" on that package, and everything works
great. The errors do not show up again.

Thanks for the reply.

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Mikko
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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