YP AB Intermittent failures meeting
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Aug 26, 2021, 9 AM ET
https://windriver.zoom.us/j/3696693975

Attendees: Tony, Richard, Trevor, Randy, Alex, Saul, Sakib!


Summary:
========

It was a rough week for testing due to glibc-2.34 and rust
problems so we'll see if the next week let's us return to:
   ptest results continue to improve but there's still room
   for even more improvement.

The make/ninja load average limit is in but it's not clear
if it's effective yet and it breaks dunfell. Trevor investigating
(Aug 26!).

There's not much new this week, I've commented on a few existing
activities below and added "Aug 26" in most cases.


If anyone wants to help, we could use more eyes on the logs,
particularly the summary logs and understanding iostat #
when the dd test times out.



Plans for the week:
===================

    Richard: biking and wait for QA results for M3.
    Alex: SWAT plans. September email, training. libevent monotonic fix!
    Sakib: hook more responsive load average in to latency test. (v3)
    Trevor: patch to set PARALLEL_MAKE : -l 50
      -> dunfell, gatesgarth, hardknott (Aug 5 - it's a priority)
      Investigate dunfell which failed with this change.
      - data on WR AB load average.
    Saul: none
    Randy: Gather more iostat data, graph it!

Meeting Notes:
==============

1. job server

- ninja could be patched with make's more responsive algorithm
    next or is this good enough?

  Aug 26:
  Randy made some graphs that show that the -l NUM results
  in the number of compile jobs oscillates *wildly* between 0 and 200
  on a 192 core builder compiling chromium. What I did was:
  $ bitbake -c cleansstate chromium-x11
  $ bitbake -c configure chromium-x11
  $ bitbake -c compile chromium-x11
  and while that compile was running:
  $ while [ ! -f /tmp/compiling-chromium-is-done ]; do \
       cat /proc/loadavg >> procs-load.log   ; sleep 0.5 ;
    done
  Results so far:
     https://postimg.cc/gallery/3hjfYfG/f8f46c97
  Next step is either:
  a. collect data as above for an image build and see if the sub-optimal
     ninja behaviour makes a difference
  and/or
  b. patch ninja with make's more responsive load avg
     algorithm:
        https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=d8728efc8


- Richard suggested that we extract make's code for measuring the load
    average to a separate binary and run it in the periodic io latency
    test. Also can we translate it to python?
    - Trevor is working on this and had some problems so next week.
      (Aug 19 - Trevor is back from vaction so maybe next week.)

- Trevor to see if the load average change really did reduce load
  on WR build systems. (Aug 19)

2. AB status

     Trevor is learning about buildbot and working on a scheduling bug
     (CentOS worker?)

     bitbake layer setup tool should allow multiple backends:
       eg: kas, a y-a-helper.

     ptest cases are improving, we may be close to done!
     Let's wait a week to see how things go.
     (July29, Aug 5, Aug 19,  we're not done...)

     - lttng-tools ptest is failing. RP is working on it with upstream.
       The timeout (done on Aug 5) increase hasn't helped.


3. Sakib's improvements to the logging are merged.

     Sakib generated a summary of all high latency 'top' logs from
     ~July 23->July 29 by just running his summary script on the
     merged raw top logs.

    More analysis required....


Still relevant parts of
Previous Meeting Notes:
=======================


4. bitbake server timeout ( no change july 29, Aug 19)

     "Timeout while waiting for a reply from the bitbake server (60s)"

5. io stalls (no update: July 29)

     Richard said that it would make sense to write an ftrace utility
     / script to monitor io latency and we could install it with sudo
     Ch^W mentioned ftrace on IRC.
     Sakib and Randy will work on that but not for a week or two
     or longer! (Aug 19).

     Randy collected iostat data on 3 build server:
         https://postimg.cc/gallery/8cN6LYB
     We agreed that having -ty-2 be ~ 100 utilization for many hours
     in a row is not acceptable and that a threshold of ~ 10 minutes
     at 100% utilization may be a reasonable limt. I need to figure out
     if I can get data on the fraction of IO done per IO clas since
     we do use ionice to do clean-up and other activities.


../Randy


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