On 15-01-15 01:11, J. Tang wrote:

On Jan 14, 2015, at 15:36 , Andrei Gherzan <and...@gherzan.ro> wrote:

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:38:50AM -0500, J. Tang wrote:
The upstream meta-raspberrypi recipe builds an arm6 toolchain with only soft 
floating point. As an experiment, I enabled hard floating point by setting my 
DEFAULTTUNE to “armv6hf”. My code still ran correctly. Is there a reason why 
the meta-raspberrypi layer does not enable hard floating point?


Well we played a little with this in the past. And we realised that, at that
time at least, switching to hf didn't add any performace improvements. Did you
test anything that proves the contrary?

In my case, I was re-compiling MAME for the Raspberry Pi. The code has a 
dependency on hf. Furthermore, Rasbian is built with hf.

If the CPU has actual hard-float support, then enabling it should increase floating point performance by an order of magnitude (e.g. 100x faster or so).

If you don't see any real world performance improvements, My guess would be one of these cases:

-1- The compiler is already creating FPU instructions, based on other properties of the target platform. The "hf" tune only changes the ABI, so that floating point values are passed to/from libraries in normal registers instead of FPU registers. This has very little impact on performance (unless you have some very badly designed libs). You can check if this is the case by examining disassember output for a bit of FPU code, if you see instructions starting with "F" in there, it's using the ARM VFP.

-2- The CPU doesn't actually have floating point support and the kernel is emulating it for you. This allows the platform to run "hf" binaries, at a minor performance cost compared to completely doing the emulation in user space (libc).



Met vriendelijke groet / kind regards,

Mike Looijmans
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